From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com, pjt@google.com,
luto@amacapital.net, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] cpuset: Enable cpuset controller in default hierarchy
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 05:25:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1521519941.24215.2.camel@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a334a234-3e87-a9a7-9589-8476fecb4149@redhat.com>
On Mon, 2018-03-19 at 17:41 -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 03/19/2018 04:49 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-03-19 at 08:34 -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> >> Hello, Mike.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 03:49:01AM +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> >>> Under the hood v2 details are entirely up to you. My input ends at
> >>> please don't leave dynamic partitioning standing at the dock when v2
> >>> sails.
> >> So, this isn't about implementation details but about what the
> >> interface achieves - ie, what's the actual function? The only thing I
> >> can see is blocking the entity which is configuring the hierarchy from
> >> making certain configs. While that might be useful in some specific
> >> use cases, it seems to miss the bar for becoming its own kernel
> >> feature. After all, nothing prevents the same entity from clearing
> >> the exlusive bit and making the said changes.
> > Yes, privileged contexts can maliciously or stupidly step all over one
> > other no matter what you do (finite resource), but oxymoron creation
> > (CPUs simultaneously balanced and isolated) should be handled. If one
> > context can allocate a set overlapping a set another context intends to
> > or already has detached from scheduler domains, both are screwed.
> >
> > -Mike
>
> The allocations of CPUs to child cgroups should be controlled by the
> parent cgroup. It is the parent's fault if some CPUs are in both
> balanced and isolated cgroups.
>
> How about we don't allow turning off scheduling if the CPUs aren't
> exclusive from the parent's perspective? So you can't create an isolated
> cgroup if the CPUs aren't exclusive. Will this be a good enough compromise?
Sure. The kernel need only ensure its own sanity. Userspace conflicts
are more or less a non-issue. In practice, all players but one will
have been constrained or eliminated prior to any partitioning.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-20 4:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-09 15:35 [PATCH v4] cpuset: Enable cpuset controller in default hierarchy Waiman Long
2018-03-09 16:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2018-03-09 17:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2018-03-09 17:45 ` Waiman Long
2018-03-09 18:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2018-03-09 18:20 ` Waiman Long
2018-03-09 19:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2018-03-09 20:43 ` Waiman Long
2018-03-09 22:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-09 23:06 ` Waiman Long
2018-03-10 3:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2018-03-14 19:57 ` Tejun Heo
2018-03-15 2:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2018-03-19 15:34 ` Tejun Heo
2018-03-19 20:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2018-03-19 21:41 ` Waiman Long
2018-03-20 4:25 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2018-03-10 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-12 14:20 ` Waiman Long
2018-03-12 15:21 ` Mike Galbraith
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