From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4//mySbG1DKMDd7ufngoP6m3ONfTMtVnqJO/F0jqXYra4hcDcgsCPC1fuCqaOVyWsr5/wO1 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1523128746; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Jo4m09AKEyanRpX4MVJBSv4xCh7c8/y+iA5/wS9Kr7/b2yFHQg7/O/QZjv62C9H5dC xJR7wlN7G4U1IsLMIo767YeQvgO0NM4TlNxMHKK5Qmx4IjjDF4Qeyqu6BLXwaqZB8Dtw e8E0hTc+oc6xknqfE8of6EMHxAzATAOs13Wd6LTDHmoHQ3UfvOF3Au+iKndRlB91iB9v KVn3toK6wLSwZIsr3bL49Dasw1V207lKv/j6hBRtja0CifwnZsxiHAKFuokxTmNdakLh kiJxBrcrfKVqn0SoQRQgUC1t9Uxy72vZVikM1rHmp/OSK+Ng5jdr917dF8bMhQwDK6kb t5EA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:date :cc:to:from:subject:message-id:arc-authentication-results; bh=WkV6CzwBODBKw2NLXPKtU3pwPRkvz0FQwJun7H5i0T0=; b=XMOSSoyf0Jw5yq2wbkJrGrZ0MGQzlyh+QtnA2LBYg5Ns3Lq725L1TaN+Hv6a8kdQWj m9LhTaz084Hf6CDA8QQz1kgT4xa+fuih05pb7BvBI4PGX1Al0HPvm9g+FvfSFGyMVcxc NIEr81oEP3K6r6xnqzuep5m7BU5c3nDHkiTD0tA18XVelc7VrkcJtGTpha73qyJljIhJ PYQtsMwTTmPnb50Lq76KOtpZUjRTuNryL3TtZc0MmP5WzlNw6OytLHvyRxcQyPQKEC1l OLgfozbBvtqtnmiMjF6IYZKyRHPLbxN3WQNKkZrsFZ0WRFss2+LPwyAN2pNDsoaIePkQ qA1w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of johannes@sipsolutions.net designates 2a01:4f8:191:72ef::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johannes@sipsolutions.net Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of johannes@sipsolutions.net designates 2a01:4f8:191:72ef::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johannes@sipsolutions.net Message-ID: <1523128743.6507.5.camel@sipsolutions.net> Subject: Re: make xmldocs failed with error after 4.17 merge period From: Johannes Berg To: Markus Heiser , Heikki Krogerus Cc: Greg KH , Masanari Iida , LKML , Linux Doc Mailing List , Jonathan Corbet , linux-usb@vger.kernel.org Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2018 21:19:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20180406075109.GA21589@kuha.fi.intel.com> <20180406075734.GA16728@kroah.com> <20180406081555.GB21589@kuha.fi.intel.com> <20180406083010.GA20174@kroah.com> <20180406091126.GC21589@kuha.fi.intel.com> <2A917B38-AFF6-44DC-A4A9-796B2BE560E2@darmarit.de> <20180406105139.GA28862@kuha.fi.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.26.6 (3.26.6-1.fc27) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-GMAIL-THRID: =?utf-8?q?1596966487828993292?= X-GMAIL-MSGID: =?utf-8?q?1597116248784027630?= X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, 2018-04-06 at 13:38 +0200, Markus Heiser wrote: > > Sorry, not yet. Johannes started a discussion about this. Its a long > time ago and I do not have any new ideas yet :/ see: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-doc@vger.kernel.org/msg07035.html I still think the tools themselves don't matter all that much, as long as there aren't totally onerous requirements. I'd argue pretty much everything available on a modern distro would be OK provided we have a reasonable fallback (e.g. to ASCII as I had even written), along with some sort of documentation of dependencies, or perhaps better, some command line option to gather the info dynamically. But then again, I've already said pretty much this a year and a half ago and most people seemed more interested in some kind of purity argument than having better documentation :-) johannes