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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com>,
	rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	acme <acme@kernel.org>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	"Joel Fernandes, Google" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Faultable tracepoints (v2)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 18:54:24 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1593236413.4171.1614210864063.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <915297635.2997.1614185975415.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>


----- Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> ----- On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Michael Jeanson mjeanson@efficios.com wrote:
> 
> > [ Adding Mathieu Desnoyers in CC ]
> > 
> > On 2021-02-23 21 h 16, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:21:19 -0500
> >> Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> This series only implements the tracepoint infrastructure required to
> >>> allow tracers to handle page faults. Modifying each tracer to handle
> >>> those page faults would be a next step after we all agree on this piece
> >>> of instrumentation infrastructure.
> >> 
> >> I started taking a quick look at this, and came up with the question: how
> >> do you allow preemption when dealing with per-cpu buffers or storage to
> >> record the data?
> >> 
> >> That is, perf, bpf and ftrace are all using some kind of per-cpu data, and
> >> this is the reason for the need to disable preemption. What's the solution
> >> that LTTng is using for this? I know it has a per cpu buffers too, but does
> >> it have some kind of "per task" buffer that is being used to extract the
> >> data that can fault?
> 
> As a prototype solution, what I've done currently is to copy the user-space
> data into a kmalloc'd buffer in a preparation step before disabling preemption
> and copying data over into the per-cpu buffers. It works, but I think we should
> be able to do it without the needless copy.
> 
> What I have in mind as an efficient solution (not implemented yet) for the LTTng
> kernel tracer goes as follows:
> 
> #define COMMIT_LOCAL 0
> #define COMMIT_REMOTE 1
> 
> - faultable probe is called from system call tracepoint [ preemption/blocking/migration is allowed ]
>   - probe code calculate the length which needs to be reserved to store the event
>     (e.g. user strlen),
> 
>   - preempt disable -> [ preemption/blocking/migration is not allowed from here ]
>     - reserve_cpu = smp_processor_id()
>     - reserve space in the ring buffer for reserve_cpu
>       [ from that point on, we have _exclusive_ access to write into the ring buffer "slot"
>         from any cpu until we commit. ]
>   - preempt enable -> [ preemption/blocking/migration is allowed from here ]
> 
>   - copy data from user-space to the ring buffer "slot",
> 
>   - preempt disable -> [ preemption/blocking/migration is not allowed from here ]
>     commit_cpu = smp_processor_id()
>     if (commit_cpu == reserve_cpu)
>        use local_add to increment the buf[commit_cpu].subbuffer[current].commit_count[COMMIT_LOCAL]
>     else
>        use atomic_add to increment the buf[commit_cpu].subbuffer[current].commit_count[COMMIT_REMOTE]

The line above should increment reserve_cpu's buffer commit count, of course.

Thanks,

Mathieu

>   - preempt enable -> [ preemption/blocking/migration is allowed from here ]
> 
> Given that lttng uses per-buffer/per-sub-buffer commit counters as simple free-running
> accumulators, the trick here is to use two commit counters rather than single one for each
> sub-buffer. Whenever we need to read a commit count value, we always sum the total of the
> LOCAL and REMOTE counter.
> 
> This allows dealing with migration between reserve and commit without requiring the overhead
> of an atomic operation on the fast-path (LOCAL case).
> 
> I had to design this kind of dual-counter trick in the context of user-space use of restartable
> sequences. It looks like it may have a role to play in the kernel as well. :)
> 
> Or am I missing something important that would not survive real-life ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> -- 
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-24 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-18 22:21 [RFC PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Faultable tracepoints (v2) Michael Jeanson
2021-02-18 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] tracing: introduce faultable " Michael Jeanson
2021-02-18 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] tracing: ftrace: add support for faultable tracepoints Michael Jeanson
2021-02-18 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] tracing: bpf-trace: " Michael Jeanson
2021-02-18 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] tracing: perf: " Michael Jeanson
2021-02-18 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] tracing: convert sys_enter/exit to " Michael Jeanson
2021-02-18 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] tracing: use Tasks Trace RCU instead of SRCU for rcuidle tracepoints Michael Jeanson
2021-02-24  2:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Faultable tracepoints (v2) Steven Rostedt
2021-02-24 16:22   ` Michael Jeanson
2021-02-24 16:59     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-02-24 18:14       ` Steven Rostedt
2021-02-25 21:46         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-02-24 23:54       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2021-02-26  5:28       ` Lai Jiangshan

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