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From: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk-lkml@gmx.net>
To: Robert Love <rml@novell.com>
Cc: adi@hexapodia.org, samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mtk-lists@gmx.net
Subject: Re: wrong madvise(MADV DONTNEED) semantic
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:34:46 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15933.1120062886@www35.gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1119983300.6745.1.camel@betsy

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> On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 11:16 -0700, Andy Isaacson wrote:
> 
> > Besides, if you read the documentation closely, it does not say what 
> > you
> > think it says.
> > 
> >        MADV_DONTNEED
> > 	      Do not expect access in the near future.  (For the time
> > 	      being, the application is finished with the given range,
> > 	      so the kernel can free resources associated with it.)
> > 	      Subsequent accesses of pages in this range will succeed,
> > 	      but will result either in reloading of the memory contents
> > 	      from the underlying mapped file (see mmap) or
> > 	      zero-fill-on-demand pages for mappings without an
> > 	      underlying file.
> > 
> > You seem to think that "reloading ... from the underlying mapped file"
> > means that changes are lost, but that's not implied.
> 
> This wording _does_ imply that changes are lost if the file is mapped
> writable and not mysnc'ed or if the memory mapping is anonymous.

A little late into this thread, but...

Indeed it does imply that, because that was what I understood
when (IIRC) I wrote that text in the man page.

> In the former, changes are dropped and the file is reread from the stale
> on-disk copy.  In the latter case, the data is dropped and the pages are
> zero-filled on access.

Yes.

Cheers,

Michael

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-29 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-28 13:43 wrong madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) semantic Samuel Thibault
2005-06-28 14:38 ` [Patch] Hotfix for " Jörn Engel
2005-06-28 18:16 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-06-28 18:28   ` Robert Love
2005-06-28 18:53     ` Andy Isaacson
2005-06-28 19:23       ` Robert Love
2005-06-28 19:41         ` Samuel Thibault
2005-06-28 20:03           ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-28 20:05             ` Robert Love
2005-06-28 20:17               ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-28 20:20                 ` Samuel Thibault
2005-06-28 20:30                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-28 20:37                   ` Andy Isaacson
2005-07-05 23:39                 ` Darren Hart
2005-06-29 16:53         ` wrong madvise(MADV DONTNEED) semantic Michael Kerrisk
2005-06-29 17:22           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-06-29 16:34     ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2005-06-28 18:54   ` wrong madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) semantic Samuel Thibault

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