From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:56:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16267.990374170@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010520114411.A3600@thyrsus.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010520114411.A3600@thyrsus.com> <20010518034307.A10784@thyrsus.com> <E150fV9-0006q1-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20010518105353.A13684@thyrsus.com> <3B053B9B.23286E6C@redhat.com> <20010518112625.A14309@thyrsus.com> <20010518113726.A29617@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20010518114922.C14309@thyrsus.com> <8485.990357599@redhat.com> <20010520111856.C3431@thyrsus.com> <15823.990372866@redhat.com>
esr@thyrsus.com said:
> There are no `advisory' dependencies in CML2. They're all absolute.
> What you call an `advisory' dependency would be simulated by having a
> policy symbol for Aunt Tillie mode and writing constraints like this:
> require AUNT_TILLIE implies FOO >= BAR
> This is exactly why the CML2 ruleset has EXPERT, WIZARD, and TUNING
> policy symbols, as hooks for doing things like this.
Excellent. Then I apologise for not reading the documentation.
After the discussion of MAC and SCSI config options many moons ago in this
thread, I was left with the impression that the constraints which were
being objected to were not dependent upon a NOVICE mode, but were
unconditional.
Was this merely a mistake in the conversion of the ruleset? Do you have a
policy that the default behaviour should be similar to that of CML1, or at
least that such behaviour should be available through one of the
modes? If not, please consider doing so.
--
dwmw2
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-05-20 15:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-05-05 23:27 CML2 design philosophy heads-up Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-06 12:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 17:59 ` Tom Rini
2001-05-07 21:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-08 9:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-08 12:42 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-08 1:31 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-08 1:43 ` Tom Rini
2001-05-08 1:56 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-08 6:57 ` David Weinehall
2001-05-08 7:00 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-08 6:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-05-08 7:15 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-08 14:15 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-13 14:22 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-05-13 15:25 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-15 14:43 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-17 7:26 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-17 7:47 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-17 9:35 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-17 16:34 ` Tom Rini
2001-05-18 7:43 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 8:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 14:53 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 14:06 ` David Lang
2001-05-18 15:09 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-18 15:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-18 15:39 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 15:58 ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 16:01 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 16:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 16:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-05-18 16:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-18 17:17 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 17:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-18 17:25 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-19 5:54 ` Ben Ford
2001-05-18 17:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 18:25 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 19:13 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 19:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 20:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-19 1:49 ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-05-18 19:12 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-05-18 15:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-18 15:26 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 15:34 ` Charles Cazabon
2001-05-18 14:30 ` David Lang
2001-05-18 15:47 ` Charles Cazabon
2001-05-18 15:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-19 5:44 ` Ben Ford
[not found] ` <mailman.990252541.15890.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-05-19 6:40 ` Pete Zaitcev
2001-05-19 10:10 ` Ben Ford
2001-05-19 10:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-19 16:13 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-19 21:54 ` Ben Ford
2001-05-20 0:08 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 15:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-18 15:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 16:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-18 17:04 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-20 11:19 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-20 15:18 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-20 15:34 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-20 15:34 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-20 15:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-20 15:56 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2001-05-20 17:14 ` Background to the argument about CML2 design philosophy Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-21 0:45 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-05-21 9:14 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-21 11:32 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-22 20:38 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-21 12:15 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-21 12:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21 23:11 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-20 17:47 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-20 20:47 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-20 20:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-20 21:10 ` Robert M. Love
2001-05-21 3:38 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-05-20 22:51 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-21 1:13 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-21 6:41 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-21 10:04 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-21 11:05 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-21 20:38 ` John Stoffel
2001-05-22 0:59 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-22 9:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-23 1:51 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-21 23:00 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-22 13:45 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-22 16:21 ` John Stoffel
2001-05-22 17:17 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-21 3:33 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-05-20 20:59 ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-20 18:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-20 20:13 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 15:59 ` CML2 design philosophy heads-up Jonathan Morton
2001-05-18 16:17 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 17:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 20:03 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 17:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-18 15:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 16:04 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 16:09 ` [kbuild-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2001-05-18 16:43 ` Michael Meissner
2001-05-18 17:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-05-18 17:22 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 17:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-05-18 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 18:28 ` John Cowan
2001-05-18 17:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 17:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 15:54 ` Christer Weinigel
2001-05-18 16:02 ` [kbuild-devel] " Kai Germaschewski
2001-05-18 19:12 ` frank
2001-05-15 20:32 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-05-15 21:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 15:19 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-05-18 15:37 ` Justin Carlson
2001-05-18 15:42 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-18 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18 15:51 ` [kbuild-devel] " John Cowan
2001-05-18 15:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-05-18 16:00 ` John Cowan
2001-05-18 17:15 ` Mike Castle
2001-05-18 17:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-05-21 0:29 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-05-21 1:58 ` Mike Castle
2001-05-21 6:33 ` Ben Ford
2001-05-21 9:55 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-05-21 16:59 ` Mike Castle
2001-05-21 17:03 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21 7:21 ` arjan
2001-05-21 2:10 ` Robert M. Love
2001-05-21 2:35 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-05-21 5:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-21 9:58 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-05-21 15:36 ` Tom Rini
2001-05-21 16:24 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-21 6:11 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-05-21 12:08 ` Robert M. Love
2001-05-21 12:29 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21 16:39 ` Brent D. Norris
2001-05-21 17:48 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-21 15:18 ` Wichert Akkerman
2001-05-21 15:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-21 15:52 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 3:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2001-05-18 16:22 ` Steven Cole
[not found] ` <0105210958040I.10237@spc.esa.lanl.gov>
[not found] ` <20010521090130.F9965@opus.bloom.county>
2001-05-21 16:13 ` Steven Cole
2001-05-18 17:10 ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
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2001-05-13 16:44 Matthew Wilcox
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2001-05-18 22:18 ` Pete Zaitcev
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