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From: Vitalii Bursov <vitaly@bursov.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] sched/fair: allow disabling newidle_balance with sched_relax_domain_level
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:10:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <163e1980-41ff-4a5f-9d93-431e65fd3a9d@bursov.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtDbRUNEQ4g3rBxuC8daa6Dj_Eba8mHhVr+9UZ9eAFTPkw@mail.gmail.com>



On 28.03.24 18:48, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 at 17:27, Vitalii Bursov <vitaly@bursov.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 28.03.24 16:43, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 at 01:31, Vitalii Bursov <vitaly@bursov.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Change relax_domain_level checks so that it would be possible
>>>> to exclude all domains from newidle balancing.
>>>>
>>>> This matches the behavior described in the documentation:
>>>>   -1   no request. use system default or follow request of others.
>>>>    0   no search.
>>>>    1   search siblings (hyperthreads in a core).
>>>>
>>>> "2" enables levels 0 and 1, level_max excludes the last (level_max)
>>>> level, and level_max+1 includes all levels.
>>>
>>> I was about to say that max+1 is useless because it's the same as -1
>>> but it's not exactly the same because it can supersede the system wide
>>> default_relax_domain_level. I wonder if one should be able to enable
>>> more levels than what the system has set by default.
>>
>> I don't know is such systems exist, but cpusets.rst suggests that
>> increasing it beyoud the default value is possible:
>>> If your situation is:
>>>
>>>  - The migration costs between each cpu can be assumed considerably
>>>    small(for you) due to your special application's behavior or
>>>    special hardware support for CPU cache etc.
>>>  - The searching cost doesn't have impact(for you) or you can make
>>>    the searching cost enough small by managing cpuset to compact etc.
>>>  - The latency is required even it sacrifices cache hit rate etc.
>>>    then increasing 'sched_relax_domain_level' would benefit you.
> 
> Fair enough. The doc should be updated as we can now clear the flags
> but not set them
> 

SD_BALANCE_NEWIDLE is always set by default in sd_init() and cleared
in set_domain_attribute() depending on default_relax_domain_level
("relax_domain_level" kernel parameter) and cgroup configuration
if it's present.

So, it should work both ways - clearing flags when relax level
is decreasing, and not clearing the flag when it's increasing,
isn't it?

Also, after a closer look at set_domain_attribute(), it looks like
default_relax_domain_level is -1 on all systems, so if cgroup does
not set relax level, it won't clear any flags, which probably means
that level_max+1 is redundant today.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-28 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-28  0:30 [PATCH 0/1] sched/fair: allow disabling newidle_balance with sched_relax_domain_level Vitalii Bursov
2024-03-28  0:30 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Vitalii Bursov
2024-03-28  5:51   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-03-28 16:19     ` Vitalii Bursov
2024-03-28 14:43   ` Vincent Guittot
2024-03-28 16:27     ` Vitalii Bursov
2024-03-28 16:48       ` Vincent Guittot
2024-03-28 17:10         ` Vitalii Bursov [this message]
2024-03-28 17:38           ` Vincent Guittot
2024-03-28  0:47 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Vitalii Bursov
2024-03-28  5:48 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-03-28 16:17   ` Vitalii Bursov

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