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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@t-online.de>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Wu, Bryan" <Bryan.Wu@analog.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NOMMU: Separate out VMAs
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:12:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16451.1187622768@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46C58B4E.4080803@t-online.de>

Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@t-online.de> wrote:

> In do_mmap_private, I've commented out the logic to free excess pages, as it
> fragments terribly

I wonder if there's a good heuristic for this.  The problem is that whilst
not releasing excess pages _may_ seem like a good idea, if your system is
something like a single persistent app, then it really is not.

For instance, if such an app allocates a byte over 16MB (perhaps implicitly in
the binfmt driver), then you'd completely waste a large chunk of RAM.  In the
16MB+1 case, the wastage would be a byte less than 16MB.

> and causes a simple
>  while true; do cat /proc/buddyinfo; done
> loop to go oom.

Are you sure it's not just another leak?

> Also, I think you're freeing high-order pages unaligned to
> their order?

Yeah, but some of the pages might still be in use when we want to release
them.

> In shrink_vma, we must save the mm across calls to remove_vma_from_mm (oops
> when telnetting into the box).

I'll have a look, but I don't see that.

> In do_munmap, we can deal with freeing more than one vma.  I've not touched
> the rb-tree logic in the shared file case, as I have no idea what it's trying
> to do given that only exact matches are allowed.

I'd generally rather not do this.  You can't use MAP_FIXED to request adjacent
regions, so why should you anticipate there would be any?

> It still does not survive my mmap stress-tester, so I'll keep looking.

Thanks.

> Why do we need vm_regions for anonymous memory?  Wouldn't it be enough to just
> have a VMA?

It makes it simpler to have a common way of allocating memory for both anon
regions and file regions.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-20 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-08 13:53 [PATCH, RFD]: Unbreak no-mmu mmap Bernd Schmidt
2007-06-09 19:10 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-11 21:08   ` Robin Getz
2007-06-11 22:09   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-11 23:04     ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-06-11 23:22       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-19 23:26 ` Robin Getz
2007-06-20  2:38   ` Bryan Wu
2007-06-20  3:00 ` Paul Mundt
2007-06-20  3:18   ` Bryan Wu
2007-06-27  5:50     ` Greg Ungerer
2007-06-22 12:59 ` David Howells
2007-06-22 13:35 ` David Howells
2007-06-22 14:29 ` [PATCH] NOMMU: " David Howells
2007-08-01 12:29 ` [PATCH, RFD]: " David Howells
2007-08-03 14:03 ` [PATCH] NOMMU: Separate out VMAs David Howells
2007-08-07 13:12   ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-08-07 13:17     ` David Howells
2007-08-07 13:21       ` David Howells
2007-08-07 13:37         ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-08-07 14:03           ` David Howells
2007-08-17 11:49         ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-08-20 15:12           ` David Howells [this message]
2007-08-20 16:02             ` Bernd Schmidt

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