From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com, rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] torture: Remove support for SRCU-lite
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 03:54:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <167ab1f0-ea85-4a0f-8a19-1d74e2fa7439@paulmck-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFvmG2lT65Ido1fq@infradead.org>
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 05:05:47AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 09:13:56AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Because SRCU-lite is being replaced by SRCU-fast, this commit removes
> > support for SRCU-lite from refscale.c.
>
> Please explain how they different and why one is a good enough (or
> even better?) replacement for the other.
Ah, good point, thank you!
How about if I add this to the cover letter?
Both SRCU-lite and SRCU-fast provide faster readers by dropping
the smp_mb() call from their lock and unlock primitives.
The price of this is a pair of added RCU grace periods during
the SRCU grace period.
SRCU-fast also adds NMI safety for architectures that have
NMIs but do not have NMI-safe per-CPU operations. In addition,
srcu_read_lock_fast() returns a per-CPU pointer rather than an
integer, which provides a further speedup compared to SRCU-lite
by getting rid of array-index calculations.
There is a trivial mapping from the SRCU-lite API to that
of SRCU-fast, so we do not expect any transition issues.
In addition, while SRCU-lite remains in the kernel, checkpatch.pl
will warn about added SRCU-lite use cases.
Further read-side speedups are possible, but they amount to only
about half a nanosecond out of about two nanoseconds (measured on
my x86 laptop), and they might require some changes to existing
SRCU code. These changes are trivial, but we need to see a
solid need for the additional performance before inconveniencing
existing users.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-26 10:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-24 16:13 [PATCH 0/5] Remove SRCU-lite in favor of SRCU-fast Paul E. McKenney
2025-06-24 16:13 ` [PATCH 2/5] rcutorture: Remove SRCU-lite scenarios Paul E. McKenney
2025-06-24 16:13 ` [PATCH 3/5] rcutorture: Remove support for SRCU-lite Paul E. McKenney
2025-06-24 16:13 ` [PATCH 4/5] srcu: Remove SRCU-lite implementation Paul E. McKenney
2025-06-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 5/5] checkpatch: Remove SRCU-lite deprecation Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <20250624161400.867880-1-paulmck@kernel.org>
2025-06-25 12:05 ` [PATCH 1/5] torture: Remove support for SRCU-lite Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-26 10:54 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2025-06-26 11:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-26 14:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-02 0:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Remove SRCU-lite in favor of SRCU-fast Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-02 0:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] torture: Remove support for SRCU-lite Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-02 0:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] rcutorture: Remove SRCU-lite scenarios Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-02 0:23 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] srcu: Remove SRCU-lite implementation Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-02 0:23 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] checkpatch: Remove SRCU-lite deprecation Paul E. McKenney
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