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From: tridge@samba.org
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Michael B Allen <mba2000@ioplex.com>,
	sfrench@samba.org, linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net,
	samba-technical@lists.samba.org, aia21@cantab.net,
	hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: FAT, NTFS, CIFS and DOS attributes
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:12:13 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16857.60781.615644.171434@samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41D9EA09.8010302@zytor.com>

 > The slightly stronger reason is basically the same reason why we don't 
 > stuff a bunch of things into a struct stat and call a single system call 
 > to change a bunch of attributes

yes, and if we want this to be a good API then we'd use something like
a bitmask to indicate what fields to update so we can update them in
groups in a raceless fashion, but that would require that the kernel
understand the internals of these structures. I didn't have that
luxury, so I grouped them in the way that best matched the common use
of the attributes.

 > you don't want to have to change them all every time, and by
 > putting them all in the same structure that's your only option,
 > since setxattr() doesn't allow you to mask and merge.

can you tell me who you imagining will be using these attributes apart
from Samba, Wine and backup/restore apps? 

 > 
 > Incidentally, the document you pointed me to wasn't clear on the 
 > endianness convention.

It's little-endian NDR. For a full description of NDR in all its gory
details see http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9629399/chap14.htm

NDR seems like overkill at first, until you start to look at security
descriptors. They are very complex beasts, and using IDL/NDR makes it
much easier (in fact, security descriptors need some minor
enhancements to NDR to encode them the same way windows does).

Cheers, Tridge

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-04  1:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-03 22:24 FAT, NTFS, CIFS and DOS attributes H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 23:26 ` Michael B Allen
2005-01-03 23:33   ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 23:48     ` Michael B Allen
2005-01-03 23:55       ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04  0:18     ` tridge
2005-01-04  0:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04  0:39         ` tridge
2005-01-04  0:57           ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04  1:12             ` tridge [this message]
2005-01-04  1:31         ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04  1:48           ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04  2:05             ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04 22:24       ` [Linux-NTFS-Dev] " Szakacsits Szabolcs
2005-01-04  1:21   ` tridge
2005-01-04  1:30     ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 23:28 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04  0:05 ` tridge
2005-01-04  0:30   ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04  0:58     ` tridge
2005-01-04  1:14       ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04  1:36         ` tridge
2005-01-04  1:50           ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04  2:05             ` tridge
2005-01-04  2:09               ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04  2:23               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-01-04  2:49                 ` tridge
2005-01-04  3:39                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-01-04  3:56                     ` tridge
2005-01-04  4:50                       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-01-04  4:05     ` Michael B Allen
2005-01-04 10:34 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-01-04 11:08   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-01-04 22:18   ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04 23:04     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-01-05  0:48       ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-05  1:12         ` Nicholas Miell

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