From: Inaky Perez-Gonzalez <inaky@linux.intel.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Inaky Perez-Gonzalez <inaky@linux.intel.com>,
Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>,
dwalker@mvista.com, mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>
Subject: Re: FUSYN and RT
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:20:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16992.26700.512551.833614@sodium.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1113614062.4294.102.camel@localhost.localdomain>
>>>>> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> writes:
>> On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 16:37 -0700, Inaky Perez-Gonzalez wrote:
> I have to agree with Inaky too. Fundamentally, PI is the same for
> the system regardless of if the locks are user or kernel. I still
> don't see the difference here. But for other reasons, I feel that
> the user lock should be a different structure from the kernel
> lock. That's why I mentioned that it would be a good idea if Ingo
> modulized the PI portion. So that part would be the same for
> both. If he doesn't have the time to do it, I'll do it :-) (Ingo,
> all you need to do is ask.)
Can you qualify "different" here? I don't mean that they need to be
interchangeable, but that they are esentially the same. Obviously the
user cannot acces the kernel locks, but kernel locks are *used* to
implement user space locks.
Back to my example before: in fusyn, a user space lock is a kernel
space lock with a wrapper, that provides all that is necessary for
doing the fast path and handling user-space specific issues.
>> As long as the concept of rwlock allows for it to have multiple
>> owners (read locks need to have them), the procedure is mostly the
>> same. However, this not being POSIX, nobody (yet) has asked for it.
>
> I don't think rwlocks work well with PI. You can implement it, but
> it's like implementing multiple inheritance for Object Oriented
> languages...
I have to agree--that's why I don't go further than saying in theory
is possible. I would only touch it with a ten foot pole or if someone
offered a lot in exchange :]
--
Inaky
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-16 1:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-12 20:35 FUSYN and RT Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2005-04-12 23:11 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-04-13 0:27 ` Daniel Walker
2005-04-13 15:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-13 17:33 ` Daniel Walker
2005-04-13 18:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-15 22:51 ` Bill Huey
2005-04-15 23:37 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2005-04-16 1:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-16 1:20 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez [this message]
2005-04-16 1:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-16 1:53 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2005-04-16 2:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-16 3:00 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-04-16 3:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-16 13:05 ` john cooper
2005-04-16 14:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-16 14:51 ` john cooper
2005-04-16 4:05 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2005-04-18 5:30 ` Bill Huey
2005-04-18 7:37 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-04-18 11:33 ` Steven Rostedt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-12 23:36 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2005-04-12 23:09 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2005-04-12 22:26 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2005-04-12 22:33 ` Daniel Walker
2005-04-12 21:28 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2005-04-12 19:35 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2005-04-12 18:15 Daniel Walker
2005-04-12 20:29 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-04-12 22:15 ` Daniel Walker
2005-04-12 20:33 ` Joe Korty
2005-04-12 21:25 ` Daniel Walker
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