From: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>,
Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, varap@us.ibm.com,
richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Merging relayfs?
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:55:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17107.16181.300398.8599@tut.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050712032424.GA1742@kroah.com>
Greg KH writes:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 11:03:59PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote:
> >
> > Greg KH wrote:
> > > What ever happened to exporting the relayfs file ops, and just using
> > > debugfs as your controlling fs instead? As all of the possible users
> > > fall under the "debug" type of kernel feature, it makes more sense to
> > > confine users to that fs, right?
> >
> > Actually, like we discussed the last time this surfaced, there are far
> > more users for relayfs than just debugging.
>
> Based on the proposed users of this fs, I don't see any. What ones are
> you saying are not "debug" type operations? And yes, I consider LTT a
> "debug" type operation :)
>
> The best part of this, is it gives distros and users a consistant place
> to mount the fs, and to know where this kind of thing shows up in the fs
> namespace.
Makes sense, and I don't see a problem with getting rid of the fs part
of relayfs and letting debugfs take over that role, if debugfs were
there for all potential users. It doesn't sound like it would satisfy
users like LTT and systemtap though, who expect to be available at all
times even on production systems, which wouldn't be the case unless
the distros always shipped with debugfs enabled.
>
> > What we settled on was having relayfs export its file ops so that
> > indeed debugfs users could use it to log things in conjunction with
> > debugfs.
>
> Last I looked, this was not possible. Has this changed in the latest
> version?
The file operations are all exported, but I haven't actually tried to
use relayfs files in debugfs. Is there something more needed?
Tom
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-12 1:10 Merging relayfs? Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 1:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:17 ` Dave Airlie
2005-07-12 2:22 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 9:12 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 2:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 2:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:59 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-14 13:26 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-14 15:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 14:04 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-17 15:52 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 5:17 ` Hareesh Nagarajan
2005-07-18 14:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 14:16 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-18 15:20 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 15:58 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 23:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-23 2:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-26 2:35 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 15:06 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:41 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 8:40 ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-12 13:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 3:05 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:03 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 3:24 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 4:30 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 4:40 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 5:23 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:36 ` Steve Rotolo
2005-07-12 3:55 ` Tom Zanussi [this message]
2005-07-12 4:27 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:21 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 15:30 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 15:16 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 15:44 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 16:27 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 17:23 ` Tom Zanussi
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2005-07-12 19:29 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 20:44 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-12 21:02 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 12:40 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:04 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:22 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 4:29 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 13:47 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:55 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-13 15:56 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:58 ` Jason Baron
2005-07-12 15:26 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 15:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:08 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:36 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 21:38 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 23:55 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-13 0:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-16 21:07 ` relayfs documentation sucks? bert hubert
2005-07-16 23:13 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 9:01 ` [PATCH] " bert hubert
2005-07-17 15:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 19:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-17 20:47 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-20 21:27 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-20 21:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-21 0:31 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:33 ` relayfs as infrastructure, ltt, systemtap, diskstat bert hubert
2005-07-23 18:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-23 18:53 ` [PATCH] Re: relayfs documentation sucks? Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-25 23:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-26 5:15 ` bert hubert
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2005-07-12 4:36 ` Merging relayfs? Andi Kleen
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2005-07-13 8:13 Spirakis, Charles
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