From: Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>
To: Sean Young <sean@mess.org>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, "Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
"Timo Kokkonen" <timo.t.kokkonen@iki.fi>,
"Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
"Sicelo A . Mhlongo" <absicsz@gmail.com>,
linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] media: rc: remove ir-rx51 in favour of generic pwm-ir-tx
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:43:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1715e2bf-5d02-4f20-1476-29a1fdf350b1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRKFUb1vRtn82bgn@gofer.mess.org>
On 26.09.23 г. 10:16 ч., Sean Young wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 07:06:44PM +0300, Ivaylo Dimitrov wrote:
>> On 1.09.23 г. 17:18 ч., Sean Young wrote:
>>> The ir-rx51 is a pwm-based TX driver specific to the N900. This can be
>>> handled entirely by the generic pwm-ir-tx driver, and in fact the
>>> pwm-ir-tx driver has been compatible with ir-rx51 from the start.
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, pwm-ir-tx does not work on n900. My investigation shows that
>> for some reason usleep_range() sleeps for at least 300-400 us more than what
>> interval it is requested to sleep. I played with cyclictest from rt-tests
>> package and it gives similar results - increasing the priority helps, but I
>> was not able to make it sleep for less that 300 us in average. I tried
>> cpu_latency_qos_add_request() in pwm-ir-tx, but it made no difference.
>>
>> I get similar results on motorola droid4 (OMAP4), albeit there average sleep
>> is in 200-300 us range, which makes me believe that either OMAPs have issues
>> with hrtimers or the config we use has some issue which leads to scheduler
>> latency. Or, something else...
>
> The pwm-ir-tx driver does suffer from this problem, but I was under the
> impression that the ir-rx51 has the same problem.
>
Could you elaborate on the "pwm-ir-tx driver does suffer from this
problem"? Where do you see that?
ir-rx51 does not suffer from the same problem (albeit it has its own
one, see bellow)
>> In either case help is appreciated to dig further trying to find the reason
>> for such a big delay.
>
> pwm-ir-tx uses usleep_range() and ir-rx51 uses hrtimers. I thought that
> usleep_range() uses hrtimers; however if you're not seeing the same delay
> on ir-rx51 then maybe it's time to switch pwm-ir-tx to hrtimers.
>
usleep_range() is backed by hrtimers already, however the difference
comes from how hrtimer is used in ir-rx51: it uses timer callback
function that gets called in softirq context, while usleep_range() puts
the task in TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE state and then calls
schedule_hrtimeout_range(). For some reason it takes at least 200-400 us
(on average) even on OMAP4 to switch back to TASK_RUNNING state.
The issue with ir-rx51 and the way it uses hrtimers is that it calls
pwm_apply_state() from hrtimer function, which is not ok, per the
comment here
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.6-rc3/source/drivers/pwm/core.c#L502
I can make pwm-ir-tx switch to hrtimers, that's not an issue, but I am
afraid that there is some general scheduler or timers (or something
else) issue that manifests itself with usleep_range() misbehaving.
> I don't have a n900 to test on, unfortunately.
>
I have and once I have an idea what's going on will port pwm-ir-tx to
hrtimers, if needed. Don't want to do it now as I am afraid the
completion I will have to use will have the same latency problems as
usleep_range()
Thanks,
Ivo
> Thanks
> Sean
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-26 12:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <cover.1693577725.git.sean@mess.org>
2023-09-01 14:18 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] dt-bindings: media: remove nokia,n900-ir as pwm-ir-tx is compatible Sean Young
2023-09-02 10:50 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-04 14:28 ` Lee Jones
2023-09-01 14:18 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] media: rc: remove ir-rx51 in favour of generic pwm-ir-tx Sean Young
2023-09-06 16:04 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-09-25 16:06 ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2023-09-26 7:16 ` Sean Young
2023-09-26 7:37 ` Tony Lindgren
2023-09-26 12:54 ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2023-09-26 12:43 ` Ivaylo Dimitrov [this message]
2023-09-26 20:18 ` Sean Young
2023-09-29 8:49 ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2023-09-29 16:20 ` Sean Young
2023-09-29 21:08 ` Uwe Kleine-König
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