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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "Rusty Russell (IBM)" <rusty@au1.ibm.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Joy Latten <latten@us.ibm.com>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fw: signed kernel modules?
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:14:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17271.1097756056@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0410141357380.877@scrub.home>


> I'm trying to understand the reason to stuff this into kernel. Why can't 
> this check be done before loading the module into the kernel? If you don't 
> trust insmod, how can you trust the build system?

 (1) insmod isn't the only way to load a module.

 (2) This helps limit what an intruder can do; particularly if you combine it
     with other measures.

 (3) Who says the kernel RPM is built on the same machine as the one you
     really want to deploy this on for the added protection?

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-14 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-10-11 15:11                                 ` Fw: signed kernel modules? David Howells
2004-10-11 15:15                                   ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-11 22:34                                     ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-12  8:35                                       ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-12 19:08                                         ` Greg KH
2004-10-12 19:16                                           ` David Howells
2004-10-12 20:43                                           ` David Howells
2004-10-13  0:20                                           ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13  8:24                                             ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-13  0:11                                         ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13  9:16                                           ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-13 21:21                                             ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13  9:24                                           ` David Howells
2004-10-13 10:42                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-10-13 22:40                                             ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-14 10:17                                               ` David Howells
2004-10-15  0:28                                                 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-14 23:44                                               ` Alan Cox
2004-10-15  1:00                                                 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13 21:18                                           ` David Howells
2004-10-13 21:51                                             ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 11:12                                               ` David Howells
2004-10-14 12:01                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 12:11                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 14:22                                                     ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 14:30                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 21:03                                                         ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 21:24                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 21:36                                                             ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 21:52                                                               ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 22:15                                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 22:32                                                                   ` David Howells
2004-10-14 22:38                                                                     ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 12:14                                                   ` David Howells [this message]
2004-10-14 13:08                                                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 14:18                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-14 14:25                                                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 15:40                                                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 15:50                                                             ` Dave Jones
     [not found]                                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0410141352590.8479@chaos.analogic.com>
2004-10-14 18:20                                                                 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-14 18:30                                                                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 18:46                                                                     ` Dave Jones
2004-10-14 19:03                                                                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 19:41                                                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-14 21:13                                                                         ` Dave Jones
2004-10-18  1:56                                                       ` Jon Masters
2004-10-13 23:01                                             ` Rusty Russell
2004-10-14 11:02                                               ` David Howells
2004-10-15  0:47                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2004-10-14 18:09                                             ` David Howells
2004-10-15 11:12                                               ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 12:10                                                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 12:31                                                   ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 15:53                                                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 16:17                                                       ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 16:59                                                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 17:08                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-15 17:35                                                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 20:56                                                               ` Lee Revell
2004-10-15 21:18                                                                 ` Greg KH
2004-10-15 21:34                                                                   ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-15 22:08                                                                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 12:53                                                                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 13:53                                                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2004-10-18 14:09                                                                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 16:33                                                                         ` Greg KH
2004-10-18 17:14                                                                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 17:28                                                                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 17:46                                                           ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 20:11                                                             ` Tonnerre
2004-10-17 20:18                                                               ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-17 20:52                                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-17 21:25                                                                   ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-15 12:48                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 15:51                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 14:01                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-15 14:28                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 15:54                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 16:33                                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-14 18:44                                   ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-15 15:37 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-15 16:05 ` Olivier Galibert
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2004-10-17 15:13   ` Bodo Eggert
2004-10-18 11:27     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-23 10:19       ` Bodo Eggert

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