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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	mingo@redhat.com, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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	adobriyan@gmail.com, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	gorcunov@gmail.com, fw@deneb.enyo.de,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask.
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 21:01:25 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1736004700.56566.1460581285951.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2143735451.55767.1460561962122.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

----- On Apr 13, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com wrote:

> ----- On Apr 13, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjones@redhat.com wrote:
> 
>> v1 -> v2:
>> 
>> - Use current_umask() instead of current->fs->umask.
>> 
>> - Retested it.
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> It's not possible to read the process umask without also modifying it,
>> which is what umask(2) does.  A library cannot read umask safely,
>> especially if the main program might be multithreaded.
>> 
>> This patch series adds a trivial system call "getumask" which returns
>> the umask of the current process.
> 
> In addition to this system call, we could extend a variation of my
> thread_local_abi system call (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/4/4/455)
> (could be without features flags, or an entirely new system call
> specifically for a umask cache) to register a "current umask" cache
> located in a TLS area.
> 
> Basically, reading the current umask value would be a simple load from
> a TLS variable.

I'm actually discussing 3 separate things here: the umask, sigmask, and
cpu affinity mask.

Not sure if caching the umask in a TLS would be that useful, though.
The caching idea seems to make more sense for signal mask and cpu
affinity mask.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> This could also allow quickly blocking and unblocking
> signal delivery from user-space by storing a mask to this TLS area.
> 
> The kernel could then look into the signal mask in this TLS area whenever
> it needs to deliver a signal (assuming this code path can take
> user-space faults), in addition to the mask kept within the
> task struct.
> 
> This "tls cache" idea could also apply to setting a CPU affinity to the
> currently running CPU for short user-space critical sections.
> 
> The benefit here is to get _very_ fast operations on the thread umask
> and cpu affinity.
> 
> Are those ideas too far-fetched ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
>> 
>> Another approach to this has been attempted before, adding something
>> to /proc, although it didn't go anywhere.  See:
>> 
>>  http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1292109
>> 
>> Another way to solve this would be to add a thread-safe getumask to
>> glibc.  Since glibc could own the mutex, this would permit libraries
>> linked to this glibc to read umask safely.
>> 
>> I should also note that man-pages documents getumask(3), but no
>> version of glibc has ever implemented it.
>> 
>> Typical test script:
>> 
>> #include <stdio.h>
>> #include <stdlib.h>
>> #include <linux/unistd.h>
>> #include <sys/syscall.h>
>> 
>> int main(int argc, char *argv[])
>> {
>>  int r = syscall(329);
>>  if (r == -1) {
>>    perror("getumask");
>>    exit(1);
>>  }
>>  printf("umask = %o\n", r);
>>  exit(0);
>> }
>> 
>> $ ./getumask
>> umask = 22
>> 
>> Rich.
> 
> --
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-13 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-13 12:57 [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 13:20   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2016-04-13 13:57     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 14:02       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-13 15:27       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-13 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86: Wire up new getumask system call on x86 Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask Greg KH
2016-04-14  3:47   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-04-14 19:26     ` Greg KH
2016-04-13 15:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-13 21:01   ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2016-04-14  2:13     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-18  0:38       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18  1:09         ` Greg KH
2016-04-18  2:02           ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18  2:12           ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18  2:15             ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18  2:37               ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18  3:00                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 11:39                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-14 17:56     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-13 15:41 ` Colin Walters
2016-04-13 16:03   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-18  1:42   ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18  1:57     ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18  9:14       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-18 10:04         ` H. Peter Anvin

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