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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: List Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Where did vm_operations_struct->unmap in 2.4.0 go?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:25:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17460.979219553@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17071.979217174@ocs3.ocs-net>
In-Reply-To: <17071.979217174@ocs3.ocs-net>



kaos@ocs.com.au said:
> So you want two services, one static for code that does not do any
> initialisation and one dynamic for code that does do initialisation.
> Can you imagine the fun when somebody adds startup code to a routine
> that was using static registration? 

Oh come on. If you change a module from being 'self-contained' and 
registered at compile time to requiring initialisation it's hardly 
unreasonable to expect you switch the registration too.

Besides, I'm not going to allow any link order dependencies into code I
maintain without them being impossible to avoid - and if anyone's thought
about the problem hard enough to convince me to accept such a change,
they'll have noticed the need to change the registration.

> Oh dear, I added init code so I have to remember to change from static 
> to dynamic registration, and that affects the link order so now I have 
> to tweak the Makefile.

cf. "Oh dear, I added init code but put it _after_ the registration instead
of before, so stuff blows up."

Neither of these two programmers will get their code into anything I 
maintain.

cf. "Oh dear, I need registration, but I have to remember that
inter_module_xxx can't do static registration so now I have to tweak the
Makefile."

kaos@ocs.com.au said:
> Stick to one method that works for all routines, dynamic registration.

It doesn't work for all routines. It introduces unnecessary brokenness - 
link order dependencies - where previously there were none.

> If that imposes the occasional need for a couple of extra calls in
> some routines and for people to think about initialisation order right
> from the start then so be it, it is a small price to pay for long term
> stability and ease of maintenance.

I'm thinking about link order. If I _wasn't_ thinking about link order, 
then I'd just put the lines in the 'right' order in the Makefile and put up 
with it. But I'm thinking about it, and I object to it. It is absolutely 
unnecessary in this case.

As far as I'm concerned, fixing the registration problems introduced by the
dynamic inter_module_register is a small price to pay for long term
stability and ease of maintenance :)

--
dwmw2


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-11 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-10  3:27 Where did vm_operations_struct->unmap in 2.4.0 go? Allen Unueco
2001-01-10  3:50 ` Keith Owens
2001-01-11  5:38 ` Antony Suter
2001-01-11  6:05   ` Keith Owens
2001-01-11 11:42     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-11 12:12       ` Keith Owens
2001-01-11 12:32         ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-11 12:46           ` Keith Owens
2001-01-11 13:09             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-11 13:14               ` Keith Owens
2001-01-12  2:12                 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-01-12  2:30                   ` Keith Owens
2001-01-12 10:27                     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-12 11:55                       ` Keith Owens
2001-01-12 13:40                         ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-12 12:01                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-12 12:18                       ` Keith Owens
2001-01-14 10:16                         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-01-11 13:25             ` David Woodhouse [this message]
     [not found] <3A5EFC56.F1A5BCE0@mira.net>
2001-01-12 19:11 ` Christian Zander
2001-01-13  1:11   ` Keith Owens
2001-01-13 10:46     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-13 12:06       ` Keith Owens
2001-01-13 15:09         ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-13 19:03           ` Russell King
2001-01-14  0:21           ` Keith Owens
2001-01-14  9:43             ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-14 10:05               ` Keith Owens
2001-01-14 10:45                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-14  4:04           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 17:46             ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-14 19:12               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 20:02                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-14 20:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 21:15                     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-14 21:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 21:57                         ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-14 23:00                         ` Keith Owens
2001-01-15  9:09                           ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-13 11:46     ` Christian Zander
2001-01-13 12:23       ` Keith Owens

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