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From: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>
To: Tomas Melin <tomas.melin@vaisala.com>,
	David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	 Michael Hennerich <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	Nuno Sa <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	 Jonathan Cameron	 <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
	Olivier Moysan	 <olivier.moysan@foss.st.com>
Cc: linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] iio: industrialio-backend: support backend capabilities
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2026 12:40:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <177d62446d9c2098bbfe8b0f7fd9418d5afb60fc.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30cf63eb-50ba-445d-a78b-d6532aacdc8e@vaisala.com>

On Mon, 2026-02-02 at 13:08 +0200, Tomas Melin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 02/02/2026 12:28, Nuno Sá wrote:
> > On Sat, 2026-01-31 at 14:30 -0600, David Lechner wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > Do we actually need this one? Alternative could be, for example:
> > > 
> > > int iio_backend_enable(struct iio_backend *back)
> > > {
> > > 	int ret;
> > > 
> > > 	ret = iio_backend_op_call(back, enable);
> > > 	
> > > 	return ret == -EOPNOTSUPP ? 0 : ret;
> > > }
> > 
> > I would prefer not to assume we can ignore the backend not supporting
> > the call. It opens up the question for other operations.
> > 
> > My preferred way for this kind of fundamental operation (enabling/disabling)
> > would be to check with DT maintainers if we could have some kind of fixed-backend
> > (fixed in the sense the HW is present but not controlled by Linux) dummy device that
> > with implement a no-OP enable/disable().
> 
> There is also use cases for the always_on cap with a configurable
> non-dummy backend. Some applications are such that the driver should
> leave the enabling/disabling up to the user space consuming the data.
> For this case it's great to have the frontend leave the backend enable
> alone using this capability.
> 

I would argue the above would be something to take care at the frontend level. The way
I see it, the always_on cap is pretty much saying that we can't really control the on/off state
of the backing device and we just assume it's on. 

If we can control it but we need it always on (for some specific usecase), I would say that should
be handled at the frontend and just enable the backend once. Also note that as of now, I think all
of the users (or most at least) we have just enable the backend during probe and leave it on until
we unbind the device.

- Nuno Sá



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-02 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-30  9:16 [PATCH v5 0/4] iio: adc: ad9467: Support alternative backends Tomas Melin
2026-01-30  9:16 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] iio: industrialio-backend: support backend capabilities Tomas Melin
2026-01-31 20:30   ` David Lechner
2026-02-02 10:28     ` Nuno Sá
2026-02-02 11:08       ` Tomas Melin
2026-02-02 12:40         ` Nuno Sá [this message]
2026-02-02 13:04           ` Tomas Melin
2026-02-02 15:50             ` David Lechner
2026-02-03  9:50               ` Tomas Melin
2026-02-04  1:07                 ` David Lechner
2026-02-04 11:15                   ` Tomas Melin
2026-02-03 10:01             ` Nuno Sá
2026-02-03 10:45               ` Tomas Melin
2026-02-02 10:58     ` Tomas Melin
2026-02-02 15:17       ` David Lechner
2026-01-30  9:17 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] iio: adc: adi-axi-adc: define supported iio-backend capabilities Tomas Melin
2026-02-02 10:33   ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-30  9:17 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] iio: dac: adi-axi-dac: " Tomas Melin
2026-02-02 10:33   ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-30  9:17 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] iio: adc: ad9467: check for backend capabilities Tomas Melin
2026-01-31 20:40   ` David Lechner
2026-02-02 11:18     ` Tomas Melin
2026-02-02 10:42   ` Nuno Sá
2026-02-02 12:03     ` Tomas Melin
2026-02-03  9:51       ` Nuno Sá

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