On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:22:51 +0100, Pavel Machek said: > > On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:59:27 +0100, Pavel Machek said: > > > > > Well, maybe, but mailer system where first user starts is as a daemon > > > makes sense... > > > > Does it? How do you get port 25 open for listening if the first user isn't > > root? Most *actual* schemes to "launch at first use" that require privs fo r > > something have used inetd or similar - that program exists for a > > *reason*. > > Remember sendmail is setuid root... so it already has the permissions. Actually, the sendmail setuid bit was removed quite some time ago: 8.12.0/8.12.0 2001/09/08 *NOTICE*: The default installation of sendmail does not use set-user-ID root anymore. You need to create a new user and a new group before installing sendmail (both called smmsp by default). The installation process tries to install /etc/mail/submit.cf and creates /var/spool/clientmqueue by default. Please see sendmail/SECURITY for details. Wow. 2001. And people *still* think it's setuid. ;) (Interestingly enough, the capabilities bug came *later*: 8.12.1/8.12.1 2001/10/01 SECURITY: Check whether dropping group privileges actually succeeded to avoid possible compromises of the mail system by supplying bogus data. Add configuration options for different set*gid() calls to reset saved gid. Problem found by Michal Zalewski. and was mostly an issue because the same problem existed in pre-8.12 sendmails that were still setuid and hadn't upgraded yet...