From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:08:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17c0b56b663fce6f28b46e3c42dfbaf9@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070821212129.GG30705@stusta.de>
>>> How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
>>
>> Why would that matter? It either works or not. If it doesn't
>> work, it can either be fixed, or support for that old compiler
>> version can be removed.
>
> One bug report "kernel doesn't work / crash / ... when compiled with
> gcc 3.2, but works when compiled with gcc 4.2" will most likely be lost
> in the big pile of unhandled bugs, not cause the removal of gcc 3.2
> support...
While that might be true, it's a separate problem.
>> The only other policy than "only remove support if things are
>> badly broken" would be "only support what the GCC team supports",
>> which would be >= 4.1 now; and there are very good arguments for
>> supporting more than that with the Linux kernel.
>
> No, it's not about bugs in gcc, it's about kernel+gcc combinations that
> are mostly untested but officially supported.
What does "officially supported" mean? Especially the
"officially" part. Is this documented somewhere?
> E.g. how many kernel developers use kernels compiled without
> unit-at-a-time? And unit-at-a-time does paper over some bugs,
> e.g. at about half a dozen section mismatch bugs I've fixed
> recently are not present with it.
If any developer is interested in supporting some certain old
compiler version, he should be testing regularly with it. Sounds
like that's you ;-)
If no developer is interested, we shouldn't claim to support
using that compiler version.
> But as the discussions have shown gcc 4.0 is currently too high for
> making a cut, and it is not yet the right time for raising the minimum
> required gcc version.
Agreed.
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-22 0:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-21 13:20 2.6.23-rc3-git3 make warnings Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-21 15:07 ` [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type WANG Cong
2007-08-21 15:14 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-08-21 15:18 ` Al Viro
2007-08-21 15:22 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-08-21 15:47 ` Al Viro
2007-08-23 0:59 ` Brown, Len
2007-08-23 1:28 ` Al Viro
2007-08-22 7:57 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-21 16:17 ` 2.6.23-rc3-git3 make warnings WANG Cong
2007-08-21 16:44 ` Greg KH
2007-08-21 16:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 16:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-21 17:35 ` RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0 Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 17:54 ` Russell King
2007-08-21 18:14 ` Kyle McMartin
2007-08-21 18:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-22 5:48 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-21 18:25 ` Chris Wedgwood
2007-08-21 20:41 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-08-21 20:56 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 21:01 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-08-22 6:59 ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2007-08-22 18:15 ` Ralf Baechle
2007-08-21 19:19 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 19:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 20:07 ` [RFC][PATCH] introduce TASK_SIZE_OF() for all arches Matthew Wilcox
2007-08-21 20:08 ` RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0 Linus Torvalds
2007-08-21 20:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-22 7:36 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-21 20:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 21:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 21:49 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-21 22:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-22 0:08 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-08-22 6:07 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-21 21:41 ` Oliver Pinter
2007-08-22 7:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-22 8:08 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-22 8:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-22 8:42 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-22 8:56 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-22 8:48 ` Martin Michlmayr
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