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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:08:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17c0b56b663fce6f28b46e3c42dfbaf9@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070821212129.GG30705@stusta.de>

>>> How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
>>
>> Why would that matter?  It either works or not.  If it doesn't
>> work, it can either be fixed, or support for that old compiler
>> version can be removed.
>
> One bug report "kernel doesn't work / crash / ... when compiled with
> gcc 3.2, but works when compiled with gcc 4.2" will most likely be lost
> in the big pile of unhandled bugs, not cause the removal of gcc 3.2
> support...

While that might be true, it's a separate problem.

>> The only other policy than "only remove support if things are
>> badly broken" would be "only support what the GCC team supports",
>> which would be >= 4.1 now; and there are very good arguments for
>> supporting more than that with the Linux kernel.
>
> No, it's not about bugs in gcc, it's about kernel+gcc combinations that
> are mostly untested but officially supported.

What does "officially supported" mean?  Especially the
"officially" part.  Is this documented somewhere?

> E.g. how many kernel developers use kernels compiled without
> unit-at-a-time? And unit-at-a-time does paper over some bugs,
> e.g. at about half a dozen section mismatch bugs I've fixed
> recently are not present with it.

If any developer is interested in supporting some certain old
compiler version, he should be testing regularly with it.  Sounds
like that's you ;-)

If no developer is interested, we shouldn't claim to support
using that compiler version.

> But as the discussions have shown gcc 4.0 is currently too high for
> making a cut, and it is not yet the right time for raising the minimum
> required gcc version.

Agreed.


Segher


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-22  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-21 13:20 2.6.23-rc3-git3 make warnings Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-21 15:07 ` [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type WANG Cong
2007-08-21 15:14   ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-08-21 15:18     ` Al Viro
2007-08-21 15:22       ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-08-21 15:47         ` Al Viro
2007-08-23  0:59           ` Brown, Len
2007-08-23  1:28             ` Al Viro
2007-08-22  7:57       ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-21 16:17 ` 2.6.23-rc3-git3 make warnings WANG Cong
2007-08-21 16:44   ` Greg KH
2007-08-21 16:57     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 16:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-21 17:35   ` RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0 Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 17:54     ` Russell King
2007-08-21 18:14       ` Kyle McMartin
2007-08-21 18:29       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-22  5:48         ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-21 18:25     ` Chris Wedgwood
2007-08-21 20:41       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-08-21 20:56         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 21:01           ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-08-22  6:59         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2007-08-22 18:15         ` Ralf Baechle
2007-08-21 19:19     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 19:54       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 20:07         ` [RFC][PATCH] introduce TASK_SIZE_OF() for all arches Matthew Wilcox
2007-08-21 20:08         ` RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0 Linus Torvalds
2007-08-21 20:21           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 20:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-22  7:36               ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-21 20:49             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 21:21               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-21 21:49                 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-21 22:09                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-22  0:08                 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-08-22  6:07                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-21 21:41     ` Oliver Pinter
2007-08-22  7:57       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-22  8:08         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-22  8:10           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-22  8:42             ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-22  8:56             ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-22  8:48         ` Martin Michlmayr

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