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From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.21-rc3 - ipmi unresolved
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 13:09:09 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18292.1054004949@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 26 May 2003 19:30:04 EST." <3ED2B18C.20705@acm.org>

On Mon, 26 May 2003 19:30:04 -0500, 
Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org> wrote:
>Keith Owens wrote:
>>I considered making notifier_chain_register() a macro which called
>>notifier_chain_register_module() with __THIS_MODULE, but that assumes
>>that all calls to notifier_chain_register() are local, i.e. from the
>>top level functions.  Alas there are any service routines that call
>>notifier_chain_register() on behalf of their caller, so the macro
>>approach will result in the wrong value for __THIS_MODULE.
>>
>Why can't you have a module id in the notifier chain, and use a boolean
>to tell if it is set, or something similar to that?  That way you could
>mix them, if the bool is set then do the try_in_module_count thing, if
>not then just call the function.  It does add some components to the
>register structure, but that shouldn't hurt anything besides taking a
>little more memory.

It is a change of API in a 2.4 kernel.  Not a good idea.

>>notifier_chain_unregister() is not a problem, that is a downcall from
>>the module into the kernel when the module is going away, downcalls are
>>"always" safe.  The race is a module that has started to unload, and
>>another cpu (or even the same cpu under some circumstances) runs the
>>notifier chain, doing an upcall from the kernel into a module without
>>locking or refcounts.  Given the right timing, the notifier code could
>>even branch to a module that has been completely removed.  Note that
>>notifier_call_chain() has no locking, so it is also racy against
>>notifier_chain_unregister().
>>  
>>
>You don't understand how the RCU code works.

(a) I understand how RCU works, I was working on lock free code for
    years before RCU appeared in the kernel.

(b) This is 2.4, not 2.5, there is no RCU.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-27  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-22 22:19 Linux 2.4.21-rc3 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-22 23:46 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-05-26 17:04   ` Alan Cox
2003-05-23  0:51 ` Barry K. Nathan
2003-05-23  5:32   ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-23  7:04     ` [BUG] 2.[45] ioperm fix seems broken (was Re: Linux 2.4.21-rc3) Barry K. Nathan
2003-05-23  9:00       ` Barry K. Nathan
2003-05-23  8:27 ` Linux 2.4.21-rc3 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-05-23 13:38 ` Linux 2.4.21-rc3 - ipmi unresolved Eyal Lebedinsky
2003-05-23 13:41   ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-26  2:09     ` Corey Minyard
2003-05-25  7:57   ` Keith Owens
2003-05-26  3:37     ` Corey Minyard
2003-05-26  3:54       ` Keith Owens
2003-05-27  0:30         ` Corey Minyard
2003-05-27  3:09           ` Keith Owens [this message]
2003-05-27  4:45             ` Registering for notifier chains in modules (was Linux 2.4.21-rc3 - ipmi unresolved) Corey Minyard
2003-05-27  5:30               ` Keith Owens
2003-05-27 14:48                 ` Corey Minyard
2003-05-27 16:02                   ` viro
2003-05-27 17:09                     ` Corey Minyard
2003-05-28  0:15                       ` Keith Owens
2003-05-26 17:08     ` Linux 2.4.21-rc3 - ipmi unresolved Alan Cox
2003-05-23 21:10 ` Linux 2.4.21-rc3 [net-pf-4, devfs audio, drm radeon] Gabor Z. Papp
2003-05-25 17:36 ` Linux 2.4.21-rc3 : IDE pb on Alpha Willy Tarreau
2003-05-25 17:00   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-25 20:37     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-05-25 20:45       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-25 20:55         ` Mike Fedyk
2003-05-25 21:23           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-26  7:28 ` Linux 2.4.21-rc3: doesn't build with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY=y Jerome Chantelauze
2003-05-26 13:16 ` Linux 2.4.21-rc3 Santiago Garcia Mantinan
2003-05-27  1:14   ` Jeff Chua

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