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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
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	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 7/7] Restartable sequences: self-tests
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:06:41 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1861719735.10537.1471284401541.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160815005607.GD18611@tardis.cn.ibm.com>

----- On Aug 14, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Boqun Feng boqun.feng@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 03:02:20PM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Aug 12, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Boqun Feng boqun.feng@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 06:11:45PM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> >> ----- On Aug 12, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Boqun Feng boqun.feng@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 01:30:15PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
>> >> > [snip]
>> >> >> > > Besides, do we allow userspace programs do read-only access to the
>> >> >> > > memory objects modified by do_rseq(). If so, we have a problem when
>> >> >> > > there are two writes in a do_rseq()(either in the rseq critical section
>> >> >> > > or in the asm block), because in current implemetation, these two writes
>> >> >> > > are unordered, which makes the readers outside a do_rseq() could observe
>> >> >> > > the ordering of writes differently.
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > For rseq_finish2(), a simple solution would be making the "final" write
>> >> >> > > a RELEASE.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Indeed, we would need a release semantic for the final store here if this
>> >> >> > is the common use. Or we could duplicate the "flavors" of rseq_finish2 and
>> >> >> > add a rseq_finish2_release. We should find a way to eliminate code duplication
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I'm in favor of a separate rseq_finish2_release().
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > there. I suspect we'll end up doing macros.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Me too. Lemme have a try ;-)
>> >> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > How about this? Although a little messy, I separated the asm block into
>> >> > several parts and implemented each part in a arch-diagnose way.
>> >> 
>> >> I find it rather hard to follow the per-arch assembly with this approach.
>> >> It might prove to be troublesome if we want to do arch-specific optimizations
>> >> in the future.
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > It might be, but I was just trying to kill as much duplicate code as
>> > possible, because the more duplicate we have, the more maintain effort
>> > we need.
>> > 
>> > For example, PPC32 and PPC64 may have the same asm code to check the
>> > event counter, but different code to do the final store.  Having the
>> > same RSEQ_CHECK_COUNTER() for PPC32 and PPC64 actually makes it easy if
>> > we come up a way to optimize the counter check code on PPC.
>> > 
>> > And if some arch wants to have some very specifical optimizations,
>> > it could always write the whole asm block again rather than use the
>> > helpers macros.
>> 
>> Creating macros for each assembly "operation" done in the restartable
>> sequence ends up requiring that people learn a new custom mini-language,
>> and implement those macros for each architecture.
>> 
>> I'd rather prefer to let each architecture maintainer express the
>> restartable sequence directly in assembly, which is already known to
>> them, than require them to learn a new small macro-based language.
>> 
>> Eliminating duplicated code is a goal I agree with, but there are
>> ways to achieve this which don't end up creating a macro-based custom
>> mini-language (such as what I proposed below).
>> 
> 
> Fair point ;-)
> 
> One more thing, do we want to use arch-specific header files to put
> arch-specific assembly code? For example, rseq-x86.h, rseq-powerpc.h,
> etc. This may save readers a lot of time if he or she is only interested
> in a particular arch, and also make maintaining a little easier(no need
> to worry about breaking other archs accidentally)
> 
> [...]

Good point. I wanted to wait until we had enough architectures before
doing this, but now that we have x86 32/64, ppc 32/64 and arm 32, it
appears to be the right time. Done and pushed.

>> 
>> In terms of fast-path, you would be trading:
>> 
>> (1)
>> 	"ldr r0, %[current_event_counter]\n\t" \
>> 	"mov r1, #0\n\t"
>> 	"cmp %[start_event_counter], r0\n\t" \
>> 	"bne %l[failure]\n\t" \
>> 	"str %[to_write_final], [%[target_final]]\n\t" \
>> 	"2:\n\t" \
>> 	"str r1, [%[rseq_cs]]\n\t" \
>> for
>> 
>> (2)
>> 	"ldr r0, %[current_event_counter]\n\t" \
>> 	"cmp %[start_event_counter], r0\n\t" \
>> 	"bne %l[failure]\n\t" \
>> 	"str %[to_write_final], [%[target_final]]\n\t" \
>> 	"2:\n\t" \
>> 	"mov r0, #0\n\t"
>> 	"str r0, [%[rseq_cs]]\n\t" \
>> 
>> Your proposal (2) saves a register (does not clobber r1), but this
>> is at the expense of a slower fast-path. In (1), loading the constant
>> 0 is done while the processor is stalled on the current_event_counter
>> load, which is needed by a following comparison. Therefore, we can
>> increase instruction-level parallelism by placing the immediate value
>> 0 load right after the ldr instruction. This, however, requires that
>> we use a different register than r0, because r0 is already used by the
>> ldr/cmp instructions.
>> 
>> Since this is a fast-path, achieving higher instruction throughput
>> is more important than saving a register.
>> 
>> I came up with this as an optimization while doing benchmarking
>> on a ARM32 Cubietruck as a reference architecture.
>> 
> 
> Nice ;-) Better to put a comment there?

Done.

> 
> I should try to investigate something similar for powerpc.
> 

Yes, you could try clobbering one extra register to move the
"li %%r17, 0\n\t" right after the lwz instruction. Depending on
the architecture characteristics, it may speed it up a bit. I
would expect that benchmarks on older architectures (e.g. old ppc32)
might be more affected by such tweak than newer POWER8.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-15 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-21 21:14 [RFC PATCH v7 0/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-25 23:02   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26  3:02     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-03 12:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 16:37         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 18:31           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-04  5:01             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-04  4:27           ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-04  5:03             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-09 16:13               ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-10  8:01                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 17:40                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 17:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11  4:54                   ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-10  8:13               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 18:29       ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-10 16:47         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 16:59           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-27 15:03   ` Boqun Feng
2016-07-27 15:05     ` [RFC 1/4] rseq/param_test: Convert test_data_entry::count to intptr_t Boqun Feng
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 2/4] Restartable sequences: powerpc architecture support Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  3:13         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 3/4] Restartable sequences: Wire up powerpc system call Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  3:13         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 4/4] Restartable sequences: Add self-tests for PPC Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  2:59         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  4:43           ` Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  7:37             ` [RFC v2] " Boqun Feng
2016-07-28 14:04               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28 13:42             ` [RFC 4/4] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  3:07       ` [RFC 1/4] rseq/param_test: Convert test_data_entry::count to intptr_t Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  3:10     ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-03 13:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 14:53     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-03 15:45     ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-07 15:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-07 23:35         ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-09 13:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-09 20:06     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-09 21:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 22:41         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  7:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 13:26             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 13:33               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 14:04                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  8:10       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 19:04         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 19:16           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 20:06             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 20:09               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 21:01                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11  7:23                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10  8:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 13:57         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 14:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 14:44             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 13:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 2/7] tracing: instrument restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 3/7] Restartable sequences: ARM 32 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 4/7] Restartable sequences: wire up ARM 32 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 5/7] Restartable sequences: x86 32/64 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 6/7] Restartable sequences: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 7/7] Restartable sequences: self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
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2016-07-24  3:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-24 18:01       ` Dave Watson
2016-07-25 16:43         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11 23:26         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  1:28           ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12  3:10             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  3:13               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  5:30               ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12 16:35                 ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12 18:11                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-13  1:28                     ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-14 15:02                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-15  0:56                         ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-15 18:06                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2016-08-12 19:36           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12 20:05             ` Dave Watson
2016-08-14 17:09               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-25 18:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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