From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>, Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 for 4.15 08/24] Provide cpu_opv system call
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:46:03 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1920107276.18703.1511217963487.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171120184927.GK2482@two.firstfloor.org>
----- On Nov 20, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Andi Kleen andi@firstfloor.org wrote:
>> Having cpu_opv do a 4k memcpy allow it to handle scenarios where
>> rseq fails to progress.
>
> If anybody ever gets that right. It will be really hard to just
> test such a path.
>
> It also seems fairly theoretical to me. Do you even have a
> test case where the normal path stops making forward progress?
We expect the following loop to progress, typically after a single
iteration:
do {
cpu = rseq_cpu_start();
ret = rseq_addv(&v, 1, cpu);
attempts++;
} while (ret);
Now runnig this in gdb, break on "main", run, and single-step
execution with "next", the program is stuck in an infinite loop.
What solution do you have in mind to handle this kind of
scenario without breaking pre-existing debuggers ?
Looking at vDSO examples of vgetcpu and vclock_gettime under
gdb 7.7.1 (debian) with glibc 2.19:
sched_getcpu behavior under single-stepping per source line
with "step" seems to only see the ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/sched_getcpu.S
source lines, which makes it skip single-stepping of the vDSO.
sched_getcpu under "stepi": it does go through the vDSO instruction
addresses. It does progress, given that there is no loop there.
clock_gettime under "step": it only sees source lines of
../sysdeps/unix/clock_gettime.c.
clock_gettime under "stepi": it's stuck in an infinite loop.
So instruction-level stepping from gdb turns clock_gettime vDSO
into a never-ending loop, which is already bad. But with rseq,
the situation is even worse, because it turns source line level
single-stepping into infinite loops.
My understanding from https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14466
is that GDB currently simply removes the vDSO from its list of library
mappings, which is probably why it skips over vDSO for the source
lines single-stepping case. We cannot do that with rseq, because we
_want_ the rseq critical section to be inlined into the application
or library. A function call costs more than most rseq critical sections.
I plan to have the rseq user-space code provide a "__rseq_table" section
so debuggers can eventually figure out that they need to skip over the
rseq critical sections. However, it won't help the fact that pre-existing
debugger single-stepping will start turning perfectly working programs
into never-ending loops simply by having glibc use rseq for memory
allocation.
Using the cpu_opv system call on rseq failure solves this problem
entirely.
I would even go further and recommend to take a similar approach when
lack of progress is detected in a vDSO, and invoke the equivalent
system call. The current implementation of the clock_gettime()
vDSO turns instruction-level single-stepping into never
ending loops, which is far from being elegant.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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2017-11-14 20:03 [RFC PATCH for 4.15 00/24] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector v11 Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v11 for 4.15 01/24] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:39 ` Ben Maurer
2017-11-14 20:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 21:48 ` Ben Maurer
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2017-11-14 20:49 ` Ben Maurer
2017-11-14 21:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 16:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 17:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 18:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 18:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 19:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16 20:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 19:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 20:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 20:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 21:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-19 17:24 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 02/24] Restartable sequences: ARM 32 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 03/24] Restartable sequences: wire up ARM 32 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 04/24] Restartable sequences: x86 32/64 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 21:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-19 17:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-20 8:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 05/24] Restartable sequences: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 06/24] Restartable sequences: powerpc architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 07/24] Restartable sequences: Wire up powerpc system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 for 4.15 08/24] Provide cpu_opv " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-15 1:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-15 7:44 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2017-11-15 14:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 23:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 0:14 ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-17 10:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 17:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-17 18:18 ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-17 18:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 19:15 ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-17 20:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-18 21:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-17 20:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-20 17:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-20 16:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-20 17:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-20 18:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-20 18:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-20 18:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-20 18:49 ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-20 22:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2017-11-20 19:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-21 11:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 09/24] cpu_opv: Wire up x86 32/64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 10/24] cpu_opv: Wire up powerpc " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 11/24] cpu_opv: Wire up ARM32 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 12/24] cpu_opv: Implement selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 13/24] Restartable sequences: Provide self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 14/24] Restartable sequences selftests: arm: workaround gcc asm size guess Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 15/24] membarrier: selftest: Test private expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v7 for 4.15 16/24] membarrier: powerpc: Skip memory barrier in switch_mm() Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v5 for 4.15 17/24] membarrier: Document scheduler barrier requirements Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 18/24] membarrier: provide SHARED_EXPEDITED command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-15 1:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 19/24] membarrier: selftest: Test shared expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-17 15:07 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 20/24] membarrier: Provide core serializing command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 21/24] x86: Introduce sync_core_before_usermode Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 22/24] membarrier: x86: Provide core serializing command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 23/24] membarrier: selftest: Test private expedited sync core cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-17 15:09 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-17 16:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 24/24] membarrier: arm64: Provide core serializing command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 21:08 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 00/24] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector v11 Linus Torvalds
2017-11-14 21:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-14 21:32 ` Paul Turner
2018-03-27 18:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 21:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-15 4:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-15 6:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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