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From: Andrew McGregor <andrew@indranet.co.nz>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Honest does not pay here ...
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 03:49:27 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <194300000.1041691767@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10301040547120.421-100000@master.linux-ide.org>



--On Saturday, January 04, 2003 06:12:29 -0800 Andre Hedrick 
<andre@linux-ide.org> wrote:

>
> Well, all this goes to show you is that if you try to do the right thing
> and you have something of value, you are attacked.
>
> I have enjoyed begin called everything from a turncoat, backstabber,
> cheater, liar, theif, weasle.
>
> I guess I should not have said anything, and behaved like the rest.
>
> You know the embedded, the appliance, etc ... resellers who we all know
> close up the code and ship for commerial reasons.  Funny how they can do
> it and nobody cares or they hide with a grin screaming NIMBY NIMBY.
> Everyone is doing it and everyone looks away.

You know, people often only look at things in front of their noses.  So 
people notice ATA and video drivers because they have the hardware. 
Whereas, do you really know what is going on inside some appliance?  And on 
this list is definitely in front of the nose.

> Best of all some of the worst name callers are the ones who use the code I
> wrote to enable them to make money.  Yet if you have something which does
> not exist in the kernel and you adopt an API to use kernel calls, you get
> branded and hated.

Guys, you know who you are.  Apologise.  Please?

You know that this kind of thing just makes the community and its goals 
weaker.  All its varied goals.  Freedom, zealatrous, pragmatic, 
intellectual, business in the presence of freedom, even just business that 
isn't a huge corporate.  Whatever.

No-one is served by alienating people, except perhaps the corporate 
hegemony, and that indirectly.

> It could not have happened to a nicer loser, "fill in the blank" ...
>
> Well you all have gotten all kinds of goodie for free, and I just want to
> keep one of my pieces of hard work that was created during the time I was
> booted out.
>
> Well I was thinking of giving part of it to the community after I
> recovered my costs of development, now I think not.
>
> At least I have the integrity to state clearly my intentions, while the
> rest hide and cower in corners.  This reminds me of a bucket of crabs.

Andre was not trolling.  Really.

Andre, I hope you change your mind.

> Well I really wanted to use every dirty word in the book, but it is not
> worth it.
>
> I will plan to put "linux-ide.org" and "linuxdiskcert.org" up for sale.
> Additionally I will try to arrange for a legal transfer of the NDA's
> attached to "Linux ATA Development" to the individual or group who wish to
> purchase the access, pays all legal fees/work to to complete the
> transaction. I wisely attached any and all NDA's to the fore mentioned
> organization.
>
> If you are interested, please contact me offline.
> Please also have the means to purchase the information to be transferred
> which is not covered by any of the NDA's.  This will include various
> pieces of IP which was scheduled to be transfered to the kernel, but now
> will only be for sale as an entire package.
>
> The transaction for purchase will be executed via a wire transfer of funds
> to a specified account, once cleared it you will receive a manifest.
>
> regards,
>
> -ah


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-04 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-04 14:12 Honest does not pay here Andre Hedrick
2003-01-04 14:22 ` Murray J. Root
2003-01-04 14:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-04 14:49 ` Andrew McGregor [this message]
2003-01-04 15:28 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-04 20:48   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-04 20:56     ` Mark Rutherford
2003-01-04 17:06 ` Steve Lee
2003-01-04 18:38 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-04 21:50 ` brian
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-04 17:05 Billy Rose
2003-01-04 18:09 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 22:03 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-05 22:53   ` David van Hoose
2003-01-05 23:14     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-06  0:22       ` David van Hoose
2003-01-06  9:31         ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-01-06 23:41         ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-06 23:59           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07  0:07           ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-07  0:51             ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-07  9:57               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-07 11:21                 ` Alexander Kellett
2003-01-07 23:04                 ` Daniel Egger
2003-01-07  1:24             ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 10:07               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-07 12:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 23:36                 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 16:32               ` Bill Davidsen
2003-01-07 17:21                 ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-07 18:33                 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-07 19:24                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-01-07 20:58                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 23:09                     ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-08  0:24                       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 23:35                   ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 23:33                 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 14:24           ` Dana Lacoste
2003-01-07 23:28             ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-08  0:24               ` venom
2003-01-08  0:30                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-08  0:54                   ` venom
2003-01-08  1:10                     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-08 10:08                       ` venom
2003-01-08 11:05                         ` Andre Hedrick
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.10.10301080249330.421-100000@master.linux-ide.o rg>
2003-01-08 15:25                           ` Stephen Satchell
2003-01-08  1:10                   ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-08  1:41                   ` Alan Cox
2003-01-08 14:59                   ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-10 14:30                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-01-05  0:25 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05  3:21 ` Paul Jakma
2003-01-05 11:24   ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-05 15:53   ` Matthew Zahorik
2003-01-05 18:16     ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-05 19:47       ` Bruce Harada
2003-01-05 20:06         ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-05 22:54         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 12:26 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 14:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-05 15:33 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-05 20:07   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 15:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 12:34 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 19:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-05 20:21 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-05 20:29 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05 22:28   ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06  0:01     ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-06  0:15       ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06  1:43         ` Stephen Satchell
2003-01-06  7:40           ` Trever L. Adams
2003-01-06  8:37             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06  2:03         ` Ian Molton
2003-01-06  3:14         ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-06  2:18   ` jw schultz
2003-01-06  1:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-06  2:08 Adam J. Richter
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030107112017.15952A-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
2003-01-07 20:04 ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-08  7:29 Hell.Surfers
2003-01-08 20:59 ` Philip Dodd
2003-01-09 23:27   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-01-12  9:27 Adam J. Richter
2003-01-12 10:25 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-12 13:52 ` Paul Jakma
2003-01-13  0:18 Adam J. Richter

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