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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	mhocko@suse.com, shy828301@gmail.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	willy@infradead.org, xiang@kernel.org, ying.huang@intel.com,
	yuzhao@google.com, chrisl@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	hanchuanhua@oppo.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: swap: Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 10:44:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19c2cf15-8789-4977-b149-83b53d2b6abb@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4w8YWMFjWu2i5NhbOA-pfemvzCHt4hB7rWiOpY63GVWSA@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/03/2024 09:54, Barry Song wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 10:00 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Barry,
>>
>> On 18/02/2024 23:40, Barry Song wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 1:14 AM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 05/02/2024 09:51, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>> +Chris, Suren and Chuanhua
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ryan,
>> [...]
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ryan,
>>> I am running into some races especially while enabling large folio swap-out and
>>> swap-in both. some of them, i am still struggling with the detailed
>>> timing how they
>>> are happening.
>>> but the below change can help remove those bugs which cause corrupted data.
>>
>> I'm getting quite confused with all the emails flying around on this topic. Here
>> you were reporting a data corruption bug and your suggested fix below is the one
>> you have now posted at [1]. But in the thread at [1] we concluded that it is not
>> fixing a functional correctness issue, but is just an optimization in some
>> corner cases. So does the corruption issue still manifest? Did you manage to
>> root cause it? Is it a problem with my swap-out series or your swap-in series,
>> or pre-existing?
> 
> Hi Ryan,
> 
> It is not a problem of your swap-out series, but a problem of my swap-in
> series. The bug in swap-in series is triggered by the skipped PTEs in the
> thread[1], but my swap-in code should still be able to cope with this situation
> and survive it -  a large folio might be partially but not completely unmapped
> after try_to_unmap_one(). 

Ahh, understood, thanks!

> I actually replied to you and explained all
> the details here[2], but guess you missed it :-)

I did read that mail, but the first line "They are the same" made me think this
was solving a functional problem. And I still have a very shaky understanding of
parts of the code that I haven't directly worked on, so sometimes some of the
details go over my head - I'll get there eventually!

> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20240304103757.235352-1-21cnbao@gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAGsJ_4zdh5kOG7QP4UDaE-wmLFiTEJC2PX-_LxtOj=QrZSvkCA@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> apology this makes you confused.

No need to apologise - I appreciate your taking the time to write it all down in
detail. It helps me to learn these areas of the code.

> 
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20240304103757.235352-1-21cnbao@gmail.com/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ryan
>>
> 
> Thanks
> Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-05 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 14:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: swap: Remove CLUSTER_FLAG_HUGE from swap_cluster_info:flags Ryan Roberts
2024-02-22 10:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-22 10:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 17:41       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 17:10         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 19:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28  9:37             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 12:12               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 14:57                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 15:12                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 15:18                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:27                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:31                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-01 16:44                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 17:00                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 17:14                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 17:18                               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 17:06                           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04  4:52                             ` Barry Song
2024-03-04  5:42                               ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  7:41                                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:31                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:32                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 16:03                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 17:30                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 18:38                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 20:50                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:55                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 22:02                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 22:34                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  6:11                               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  8:35                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-05  8:46                                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 13:33               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-28 14:24                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 14:59                   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: swap: Remove struct percpu_cluster Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: swap: Simplify ssd behavior when scanner steals entry Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: swap: Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2023-10-30  8:18   ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-30 13:59     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-31  8:12       ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-03 11:42         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-02  7:40   ` Barry Song
2023-11-02 10:21     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-02 22:36       ` Barry Song
2023-11-03 11:31         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-03 13:57           ` Steven Price
2023-11-04  9:34             ` Barry Song
2023-11-06 10:12               ` Steven Price
2023-11-06 21:39                 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 11:51                   ` Steven Price
2023-11-07 12:46               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-07 18:05                 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 11:23                   ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 20:20                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-08 21:04                       ` Barry Song
2023-11-04  5:49           ` Barry Song
2024-02-05  9:51   ` Barry Song
2024-02-05 12:14     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-18 23:40       ` Barry Song
2024-02-20 20:03         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:00         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:54           ` Barry Song
2024-03-05 10:44             ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-02-27 12:28     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 13:37     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28  2:46       ` Barry Song
2024-02-22  7:05   ` Barry Song
2024-02-22 10:09     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-23  9:46       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 12:05         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28  1:23           ` Barry Song
2024-02-28  9:34             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 23:18               ` Barry Song
2024-02-28 15:57             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29  7:47 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Barry Song
2023-11-29 12:06   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 20:38     ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] mm: support large folios swap-in Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 1/6] arm64: mm: swap: support THP_SWAP on hardware with MTE Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:14     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  2:59       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 2/6] mm: swap: introduce swap_nr_free() for batched swap_free() Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:17     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  4:47       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 3/6] mm: swap: make should_try_to_free_swap() support large-folio Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:22     ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 4/6] mm: support large folios swapin as a whole Barry Song
2024-01-27 19:53     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  7:29       ` Barry Song
2024-01-27 20:06     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  7:31       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 5/6] mm: rmap: weaken the WARN_ON in __folio_add_anon_rmap() Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:54     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-23  6:49       ` Barry Song
2024-01-29  3:25         ` Chris Li
2024-01-29 10:06           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-29 16:31             ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  5:05               ` Barry Song
2024-04-06 23:27             ` Barry Song
2024-01-27 23:41     ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 6/6] mm: madvise: don't split mTHP for MADV_PAGEOUT Barry Song
2024-01-29  2:15     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  6:39       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 12:22     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 22:39       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 14:40     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 18:57       ` Barry Song
2024-02-28  3:49         ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 15:25   ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] mm: support large folios swap-in Ryan Roberts
2024-01-18 23:54     ` Barry Song
2024-01-19 13:25       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-27 14:27         ` Barry Song
2024-01-29  9:05   ` Huang, Ying

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