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From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, Dave Hansen	 <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Xin Li	 <xin@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/entry: Read CR2 in asm entry stub to redcue NMI clobbering window
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 12:43:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a39356971b5ba2c363ee47a80759595c8a69ecd.camel@surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac9af1cf-c123-4959-afed-2a8297b473c9@intel.com>

On Wed, 2026-05-13 at 09:31 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 5/13/26 09:12, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > This reduces the NMI/RC2 race window by 90% -- from hundreds of C
> > instructions deep in the handler down to ~30 asm instructions in
> > error_entry.
> 
> I'm all for using the FRED data. That's a no-brainer.
> 
> But I'm not sure the assembly and plumbing is worth it just to
> _reduce_
> but not eliminate a race for non-FRED systems.
> 
> What's the actual end-user-visible fallout from the race? Don't we
> just
> see the KASAN fault, skip it, IRET from the #PF and repeat the #PF?

That's a good question.

I have only "seen" this in syzkaller, so I don't know
what the symptoms would look like if a regular system
hit this race window.

I would not be surprised if we occasionally hit this
in production, but given that I don't know what the
symptoms would look like, I have no idea how often.


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  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-13 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-13 16:12 [PATCH] x86/entry: Read CR2 in asm entry stub to redcue NMI clobbering window Rik van Riel
2026-05-13 16:31 ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 16:43   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2026-05-13 17:12     ` Dave Hansen

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