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From: Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>
To: Donglin Peng <dolinux.peng@gmail.com>,
	ast@kernel.org, andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com, eddyz87@gmail.com
Cc: zhangxiaoqin@xiaomi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Donglin Peng <pengdonglin@xiaomi.com>,
	Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 3/7] tools/resolve_btfids: Add --btf_sort option for BTF name sorting
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 15:53:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bb340a3-2225-46e8-95a9-1923d737442c@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <854f468a-d178-40f4-aa03-e19ff82a1a35@linux.dev>

On 11/20/25 1:34 PM, Ihor Solodrai wrote:
> On 11/18/25 7:15 PM, Donglin Peng wrote:
>> From: Donglin Peng <pengdonglin@xiaomi.com>
>>
>> This patch introduces a new --btf_sort option that leverages libbpf's
>> btf__permute interface to reorganize BTF layout. The implementation
>> sorts BTF types by name in ascending order, placing anonymous types at
>> the end to enable efficient binary search lookup.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> +}
>> +
>> +static int update_btf_section(const char *path, const struct btf *btf,
> 
> Hi Dongling.
> 
> Thanks for working on this, it's a great optimization. Just want to
> give you a heads up that I am preparing a patchset changing
> resolve_btfids behavior.
> 
> In particular, instead of updating the .BTF_ids section (and now with
> your and upcoming changes the .BTF section) *in-place*, resolve_btfids
> will only emit the data for the sections. And then it'll be integrated
> into vmlinux with objcopy and linker. We already do a similar thing
> with .BTF for vmlinux [1].
> 
> For your patchset it means that the parts handling ELF update will be
> unnecessary.
> 
> Also I think the --btf_sort flag is unnecessary. We probably want
> kernel BTF to always be sorted in this way. And if resolve_btfids will
> be handling more btf2btf transformation, we should avoid adding a
> flags for every one of them.

The same applies to --distilled_base.

AFAIU we always want to do it, so there is not need for the
flag. Unless there is a strong use case for generating module BTF
*without* the distilled base that I am not aware of.

Maybe an explicit "--kmodule" flag would be appropriate?..
For resolve_btfids, is it reasonable to assume it's a module if --base
is passed in?

Andrii, Eduard, wdyt?

> 
> [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bpf/bpf-next.git/tree/scripts/link-vmlinux.sh#n110
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-20 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-19  3:15 [RFC PATCH v7 0/7] Improve the performance of BTF type lookups with binary search Donglin Peng
2025-11-19  3:15 ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] libbpf: Add BTF permutation support for type reordering Donglin Peng
2025-11-19 18:21   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-20  5:02     ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-20 23:21     ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-21 14:15       ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-19  3:15 ` [RFC PATCH v7 2/7] selftests/bpf: Add test cases for btf__permute functionality Donglin Peng
2025-11-19  4:51   ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-20 23:39   ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-21 14:17     ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-21  0:20   ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-19  3:15 ` [RFC PATCH v7 3/7] tools/resolve_btfids: Add --btf_sort option for BTF name sorting Donglin Peng
2025-11-20 21:34   ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-11-20 23:53     ` Ihor Solodrai [this message]
2025-11-21 15:36     ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-24 19:35       ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-11-25 10:54         ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-21  0:18   ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-24 12:14     ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-19  3:15 ` [RFC PATCH v7 4/7] libbpf: Optimize type lookup with binary search for sorted BTF Donglin Peng
2025-11-19  4:11   ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-11-19  4:43     ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-19 19:47   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-20  7:41     ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-19  3:15 ` [RFC PATCH v7 5/7] libbpf: Implement BTF type sorting validation for binary search optimization Donglin Peng
2025-11-19 19:50   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-20  7:25     ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-21 19:07       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-22  7:19         ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-22  8:50           ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-22  9:05             ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-22 15:45               ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-24 18:16                 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-25 10:53                   ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-22 15:59             ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-21 19:42       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-22  7:32         ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-22  8:38           ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-24 18:20             ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-25 10:52               ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-19  3:15 ` [RFC PATCH v7 6/7] btf: Optimize type lookup with binary search Donglin Peng
2025-11-19  3:15 ` [RFC PATCH v7 7/7] btf: Add sorting validation for " Donglin Peng

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