From: Tianchen Ding <dtcccc@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched: Queue task on wakelist in the same llc if the wakee cpu is idle
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 15:20:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d0eb8f4-e474-86a9-751a-7c2e1788df85@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xhsmhleuj7zve.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb>
On 2022/5/31 00:24, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 27/05/22 17:05, Tianchen Ding wrote:
>> The main idea of wakelist is to avoid cache bouncing. However,
>> commit 518cd6234178 ("sched: Only queue remote wakeups when
>> crossing cache boundaries") disabled queuing tasks on wakelist when
>> the cpus share llc. This is because, at that time, the scheduler must
>> send IPIs to do ttwu_queue_wakelist. Nowadays, ttwu_queue_wakelist also
>> supports TIF_POLLING, so this is not a problem now when the wakee cpu is
>> in idle polling.
>
> [...]
>
>> Our patch has improvement on schbench, hackbench
>> and Pipe-based Context Switching of unixbench
>> when there exists idle cpus,
>> and no obvious regression on other tests of unixbench.
>> This can help improve rt in scenes where wakeup happens frequently.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Tianchen Ding <dtcccc@linux.alibaba.com>
>
> This feels a bit like a generalization of
>
> 2ebb17717550 ("sched/core: Offload wakee task activation if it the wakee is descheduling")
>
> Given rq->curr is updated before prev->on_cpu is cleared, the waker
> executing ttwu_queue_cond() can observe:
>
> p->on_rq=0
> p->on_cpu=1
> rq->curr=swapper/x (aka idle task)
>
> So your addition of available_idle_cpu() in ttwu_queue_cond() (sort of)
> matches that when invoked via:
>
> if (smp_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu) &&
> ttwu_queue_wakelist(p, task_cpu(p), wake_flags | WF_ON_CPU))
> goto unlock;
>
> but it also affects
>
> ttwu_queue(p, cpu, wake_flags);
>
> at the tail end of try_to_wake_up().
Yes. This part is what we mainly want to affect. The above WF_ON_CPU is
not our point.
>
> With all that in mind, I'm curious whether your patch is functionaly close
> to the below.
>
> ---
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> index 66c4e5922fe1..ffd43264722a 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -3836,7 +3836,7 @@ static inline bool ttwu_queue_cond(int cpu, int wake_flags)
> * the soon-to-be-idle CPU as the current CPU is likely busy.
> * nr_running is checked to avoid unnecessary task stacking.
> */
> - if ((wake_flags & WF_ON_CPU) && cpu_rq(cpu)->nr_running <= 1)
> + if (cpu_rq(cpu)->nr_running <= 1)
> return true;
>
> return false;
It's a little different. This may bring extra IPIs when nr_running == 1
and the current task on wakee cpu is not the target wakeup task (i.e.,
rq->curr == another_task && rq->curr != p). Then this another_task may
be disturbed by IPI which is not expected. So IMO the promise by
WF_ON_CPU is necessary.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-31 7:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-27 9:05 [PATCH v2] sched: Queue task on wakelist in the same llc if the wakee cpu is idle Tianchen Ding
2022-05-30 16:24 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-05-31 7:20 ` Tianchen Ding [this message]
2022-05-31 11:50 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-05-31 13:55 ` Mel Gorman
2022-05-31 15:38 ` Tianchen Ding
2022-05-31 15:56 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-06-01 5:54 ` Tianchen Ding
2022-06-01 10:58 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-06-01 12:02 ` Tianchen Ding
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