From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Coiby Xu <coxu@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
Karel Srot <ksrot@redhat.com>,
Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
"open list:SECURITY SUBSYSTEM"
<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ima: Fall back to default kernel module signature verification
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 12:50:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1fb245a0e72a360df3a768726351e7fa76301471.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pbkvp4o4m3spjgvctapidfnsswakekxl2vyigqip6yyfzp73z4@rgbohq7h4nnt>
On Thu, 2025-10-30 at 21:42 +0800, Coiby Xu wrote:
> > >
> > > Another question is whether we should allow loading a kernel module with
> > > appended signature but misses IMA signature. Both IMA arch specific policy
> > > and init_module syscall only require appended signature verification. On
> > > the other hand, we only allow "appraise_type=imasig|modsig" but not
> > > appraise_type=modsig. How about we allow loading a kernel module with
> > > valid appended signature regardless of its IMA signature? We won't call
> > > set_module_sig_enforced but as long as we know is_module_sig_enforced()
> > > is true, we allow the module in IMA.
> >
> > Based on the policy, IMA enforces signature verification. Only if
> > CONFIG_MODULE_SIG is configured, the IMA arch specific policy does not define an
> > IMA kernel module appraise rule. However, custom policies could still require
> > both types of signatures, not necessarily signed by the same entity.
> >
> > The option "appraise_type=imasig|modsig" allows either an IMA signature OR an
> > appended signature.
>
> Thanks for the clarification! If I understand you correctly, some users
> may want to enforce IMA signature verification and we should provide
> such flexibility. Then do you think it's a good idea to change the kernel
> module rule in ima_policy=secure_boot to
> "appraise func=MODULE_CHECK appraise_type=imasig|modsig" so
> ima_policy=secure_boot can also work for in-kernel decompressing
> modules?
Yes, that's fine. Unlike the arch specific policy rules and the Kconfig
appraise rules, which persist after loading a custom policy, the builtin secure
boot rules do not persist.
Mimi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-30 16:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-28 3:03 [PATCH] ima: Fall back to default kernel module signature verification Coiby Xu
2025-09-30 13:57 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-09-30 20:28 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-10-16 3:46 ` Coiby Xu
2025-10-17 2:31 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-10-17 3:19 ` Coiby Xu
2025-10-17 17:49 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-10-17 23:19 ` Coiby Xu
2025-10-20 12:21 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-10-20 12:45 ` Roberto Sassu
2025-10-20 13:57 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-10-30 0:33 ` Coiby Xu
2025-10-24 15:16 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-10-30 0:31 ` Coiby Xu
2025-10-30 3:01 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-10-30 13:42 ` Coiby Xu
2025-10-30 16:50 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2025-10-31 7:58 ` Coiby Xu
2025-10-02 17:17 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-16 3:51 ` Coiby Xu
2025-10-31 7:40 ` [PATCH v2] lsm,ima: new LSM hook security_kernel_module_read_file to access decompressed kernel module Coiby Xu
2025-11-01 16:50 ` Paul Moore
2025-11-02 15:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-11-02 15:43 ` Paul Moore
2025-11-05 0:18 ` Coiby Xu
2025-11-05 2:47 ` Paul Moore
2025-11-05 14:07 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-11-05 15:42 ` Paul Moore
2025-11-05 20:25 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-11-06 13:35 ` Coiby Xu
2025-11-05 20:47 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-11-06 13:29 ` Coiby Xu
2025-11-06 22:15 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-11-07 19:28 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-11-13 4:06 ` Coiby Xu
2025-11-18 12:19 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-11-19 3:52 ` Coiby Xu
2025-11-19 3:47 ` [PATCH v3] ima: Access decompressed kernel module to verify appended signature Coiby Xu
2025-11-19 13:29 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-11-19 14:05 ` Coiby Xu
2025-11-19 14:03 ` [PATCH v4] " Coiby Xu
2025-11-19 15:29 ` Mimi Zohar
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