From: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
To: Ao Xu <ao.xu@amlogic.com>
Cc: Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
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linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] Subject: [PATCH 00/11] Add DRM support for Amlogic S4
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 11:38:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1jldv3i154.fsf@starbuckisacylon.baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3aa88bdb-ce84-4029-b497-2502ab1eb7a5@amlogic.com> (Ao Xu's message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2025 17:50:25 +0800")
On Wed 22 Jan 2025 at 17:50, Ao Xu <ao.xu@amlogic.com> wrote:
> On 2025/1/15 1:50, Jerome Brunet wrote:
>> [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
>>
>> On Sun 12 Jan 2025 at 23:44, Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 6:39 AM Ao Xu via B4 Relay
>>> <devnull+ao.xu.amlogic.com@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>> This patch series adds DRM support for the Amlogic S4-series SoCs.
>>>> Compared to the Amlogic G12-series, the S4-series introduces the following changes:
>>> Thanks for your patches. With this mail I'll try to summarize my
>>> understanding of the situation with the drm/meson driver as I'm not
>>> sure how familiar you are with previous discussions.
>>>
>>>> 1 The S4-series splits the HIU into three separate components: `sys_ctrl`, `pwr_ctrl`, and `clk_ctrl`.
>>>> As a result, VENC and VCLK drivers are updated with S4-specific compatible strings to accommodate these changes.
>>> Jerome has already commented on patch 3/11 that this mixes in too many
>>> IP blocks into one driver.
>>> This is not a new situation, the existing code is doing exactly the same.
>>>
>>> Jerome has previously sent a series which started "an effort to remove
>>> the use HHI syscon" [0] from the drm/meson hdmi driver.
>>> In the same mail he further notes: "[the patchset] stops short of
>>> making any controversial DT changes. To decouple the HDMI
>>> phy driver and main DRM driver, allowing the PHY to get hold of its
>>> registers, I believe a DT ABI break is inevitable. Ideally the
>>> register region of the PHY within the HHI should provided, not the
>>> whole HHI. That's pain for another day ..."
>>>
>>> For now I'm assuming you're familiar with device-tree ABI.
>>> If not then please let us know so we can elaborate further on this.
>>>
>>> My own notes for meson_dw_hdmi.c are:
>>> - we should not program HHI_HDMI_CLK_CNTL directly but go through CCF
>>> (common clock framework) instead (we should already have the driver
>>> for this in place)
>>> - we should not program HHI_MEM_PD_REG0 directly but go through the
>>> genpd/pmdomain framework (we should already have the driver for this
>>> in place)
>>> - for the HDMI PHY registers: on Meson8/8b/8m2 (those were 32-bit SoCs
>>> in case you're not familiar with them, they predate GXBB/GXL/...) I
>>> wrote a PHY driver (which is already upstream:
>>> drivers/phy/amlogic/phy-meson8-hdmi-tx.c) as that made most sense to
>>> me
>>>
>>> Then there's meson_venc.c which has two writes to HHI_GCLK_MPEG2.
>>> I think those should go through CCF instead of directly accessing this register.
>>>
>>> Also there's the VDAC registers in meson_encoder_cvbs.c:
>>> I think Neil suggested at one point to make it a PHY driver. I even
>>> started working on this (if you're curious: see [0] and [1]).
>>> DT ABI backwards compatibility is also a concern here.
>>>
>>> And finally there's the video clock tree programming in meson_vclk.c.
>>> My understanding here is that video PLL settings are very sensitive
>>> and require fine-tuning according to the desired output clock.
>>> Since it's a bunch of clocks I'd say that direct programming of the
>>> clock registers should be avoided and we need to go through CCF as
>>> well.
>>> But to me those register values are all magic (as I am not aware of
>>> any documentation that's available to me which describes how to
>>> determine the correct PLL register values - otherside the standard
>>> en/m/n/frac/lock and reset bits).
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that all of my thoughts are correct and immediately
>>> need to be put into code.
>>> Think of them more as an explanation to Jerome's reaction.
>>>
>>> I think what we need next is a discussion on how to move forward with
>>> device-tree ABI for new SoCs.
>>> Neil, Jerome: I'd like to hear your feedback on this.
>> I completely agree with your description of the problem, that and
>> Krzysztof's remark on patch 6. This is not new with this series indeed,
>> so it does not introduce new problems really but it compounds the
>> existing ones.
>>
>> Addressing those issues, if we want to, will get more difficult as more
>> support is added for sure.
>
> Hi,jerome
>
> What are the next steps for "an effort to remove the use HHI syscon"
> patch set, and what is the schedule?
I have no idea. You should check with Neil whether or not it is something he
wants to do and how.
If you (or anyone else) want to make a v2 out of the first clean-up I've
made [2], you are welcome to. I'm handling other things ATM and I don't
expect to get to it any time soon.
[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-amlogic/20240730125023.710237-1-jbrunet@baylibre.com/
>
>>>> 2 The S4-series secures access to HDMITX DWC and TOP registers,
>>>> requiring modifications to the driver to handle this new access method.
>> Regmap buses are made for those cases where the registers are the same,
>> but accessed differently. There is an example in the patchset referenced by
>> Martin, to handle GXL and G12 diff.
>>
>>> This info should go into patch 1/11 to explain why the g12a compatible
>>> string cannot be used as fallback.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> [0] https://github.com/xdarklight/linux/commit/36e698edc25dc698a0d57b729a7a4587fafc0987
>>> [1]
>>> https://github.com/xdarklight/linux/commit/824b792fdbd2d3c0b71b21e1105eca0aaad8daa6
>> --
>> Jerome
--
Jerome
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-22 10:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-10 5:39 [PATCH 00/11] Subject: [PATCH 00/11] Add DRM support for Amlogic S4 Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 01/11] dt-bindings: display: meson-dw-hdmi: Add compatible for S4 HDMI controller Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-11 10:17 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-18 14:50 ` Piotr Oniszczuk
2025-11-19 2:57 ` Chuan Liu
2025-11-19 10:27 ` Piotr Oniszczuk
2025-11-21 2:55 ` Ao Xu
2025-11-21 9:54 ` Piotr Oniszczuk
2025-12-02 8:29 ` Piotr Oniszczuk
2025-12-03 5:56 ` Ao Xu
2025-12-05 7:09 ` Ao Xu
2025-12-05 10:03 ` Piotr Oniszczuk
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 02/11] dt-bindings: display: meson-vpu: Add compatible for S4 display controller Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 14:07 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 03/11] drm: meson: add S4 compatible for DRM driver Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 13:36 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-01-11 6:40 ` kernel test robot
2025-01-11 7:47 ` kernel test robot
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 04/11] drm: meson: add primary and overlay plane support for S4 Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 05/11] drm: meson: update VIU and VPP " Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 06/11] drm: meson: add meson_dw_hdmi " Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 14:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 07/11] drm: meson: change api call parameter Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 08/11] drm: meson: add hdmitx vmode timing support for S4 Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 5:39 ` [PATCH 09/11] drm: meson: add vpu clk setting " Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 5:40 ` [PATCH 10/11] drm: meson: add CVBS support " Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 5:40 ` [PATCH 11/11] arm64: dts: amlogic: s4: add DRM support [1/1] Ao Xu via B4 Relay
2025-01-10 10:10 ` [PATCH 00/11] Subject: [PATCH 00/11] Add DRM support for Amlogic S4 Neil Armstrong
2025-01-10 22:43 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-01-12 22:44 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2025-01-14 17:50 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-01-15 6:15 ` Ao Xu
2025-01-22 9:50 ` Ao Xu
2025-01-22 10:38 ` Jerome Brunet [this message]
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