From: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
To: Dmitry Rokosov <ddrokosov@salutedevices.com>
Cc: Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
neil.armstrong@linaro.org, jbrunet@baylibre.com,
mturquette@baylibre.com, sboyd@kernel.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, khilman@baylibre.com,
kernel@salutedevices.com, rockosov@gmail.com,
linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 6/6] clk: meson: a1: add Amlogic A1 CPU clock controller driver
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 11:27:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1jzfuchztl.fsf@starbuckisacylon.baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240401171237.qoewp2pgcdrqvc3e@CAB-WSD-L081021>
On Mon 01 Apr 2024 at 20:12, Dmitry Rokosov <ddrokosov@salutedevices.com> wrote:
> Hello Martin,
>
> Thank you for quick response. Please find my thoughts below.
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 11:40:13PM +0200, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
>> Hi Dmitry,
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 9:59 PM Dmitry Rokosov
>> <ddrokosov@salutedevices.com> wrote:
>> [...]
>> > +static struct clk_regmap cpu_fclk = {
>> > + .data = &(struct clk_regmap_mux_data) {
>> > + .offset = CPUCTRL_CLK_CTRL0,
>> > + .mask = 0x1,
>> > + .shift = 10,
>> > + },
>> > + .hw.init = &(struct clk_init_data) {
>> > + .name = "cpu_fclk",
>> > + .ops = &clk_regmap_mux_ops,
>> > + .parent_hws = (const struct clk_hw *[]) {
>> > + &cpu_fsel0.hw,
>> > + &cpu_fsel1.hw,
>> Have you considered the CLK_SET_RATE_GATE flag for &cpu_fsel0.hw and
>> &cpu_fsel1.hw and then dropping the clock notifier below?
>> We use that approach with the Mali GPU clock on other SoCs, see for
>> example commit 8daeaea99caa ("clk: meson: meson8b: make the CCF use
>> the glitch-free mali mux").
>> It may differ from what Amlogic does in their BSP,
>
> Amlogic in their BSP takes a different approach, which is slightly
> different from mine. They cleverly change the parent of cpu_clk directly
> by forking the cpufreq driver to a custom version. I must admit, it's
> quite an "interesting and amazing" idea :) but it's not architecturally
> correct totally.
I disagree. Martin's suggestion is correct for the fsel part which is
symetric.
>
>> but I don't think
>> that there's any harm (if it works in general) because CCF (common
>> clock framework) will set all clocks in the "inactive" tree and then
>> as a last step just change the mux (&cpu_fclk.hw). So at no point in
>> time will we get any other rate than a) the original CPU clock rate
>> before the rate change b) the new desired CPU clock rate. This is
>> because we have two symmetric clock trees.
>
> Now, let's dive into the specifics of the issue we're facing. I've
> examined the CLK_SET_RATE_GATE flag, which, to my understanding, blocks
> rate changes for the entire clock chain. However, in this particular
> situation, it doesn't provide the solution we need.
>
> Here's the problem we're dealing with:
>
> 1) The CPU clock can have the following frequency points:
>
> available frequency steps: 128 MHz, 256 MHz, 512 MHz, 768 MHz, 1.01 GHz, 1.20 GHz
>
> When we run the cpupower, we get the following information:
> # cpupower -c 0,1 frequency-info
> analyzing CPU 0:
> driver: cpufreq-dt
> CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1
> CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0 1
> maximum transition latency: 50.0 us
> hardware limits: 128 MHz - 1.20 GHz
> available frequency steps: 128 MHz, 256 MHz, 512 MHz, 768 MHz, 1.01 GHz, 1.20 GHz
> available cpufreq governors: conservative ondemand userspace performance schedutil
> current policy: frequency should be within 128 MHz and 128 MHz.
> The governor "schedutil" may decide which speed to use
> within this range.
> current CPU frequency: 128 MHz (asserted by call to hardware)
> analyzing CPU 1:
> driver: cpufreq-dt
> CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1
> CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0 1
> maximum transition latency: 50.0 us
> hardware limits: 128 MHz - 1.20 GHz
> available frequency steps: 128 MHz, 256 MHz, 512 MHz, 768 MHz, 1.01 GHz, 1.20 GHz
> available cpufreq governors: conservative ondemand userspace performance schedutil
> current policy: frequency should be within 128 MHz and 128 MHz.
> The governor "schedutil" may decide which speed to use
> within this range.
> current CPU frequency: 128 MHz (asserted by call to hardware)
>
> 2) For the frequency points 128 MHz, 256 MHz, and 512 MHz, the CPU fixed
> clock should be used.
Apparently, you are relying on the SYS PLL lowest possible rate to
enfore this contraint, which I suppose is 24 * 32 = 768MHz. It would be
nice to clearly say so.
> Fortunately, we don't encounter any freeze
> problems when we attempt to change its rate at these frequencies.
That does not sound very solid ...
>
> 3) However, for the frequency points 768 MHz, 1.01 GHz, and 1.20 GHz,
> the sys_pll is used as the clock source because it's a faster option.
> Now, let's imagine that we want to change the CPU clock from 768 MHz to
> 1.01 GHz. Unfortunately, it's not possible due to the broken sys_pll,
> and any execution attempts will result in a hang.
... Because PLL needs to relock, it is going to be off for a while. That
is not "broken", unless there is something else ?
>
> 4) As you can observe, in this case, we actually don't need to lock the
> rate for the sys_pll chain.
In which case ? I'm lost.
> We want to change the rate instead.
... How are you going to do that without relocking the PLL ?
> Hence,
> I'm not aware of any other method to achieve this except by switching
> the cpu_clk parent to a stable clock using clock notifier block.
> Interestingly, I've noticed a similar approach in the CPU clock drivers
> of Rockchip, Qualcomm, and Mediatek.
There is an example of syspll notifier in the g12 clock controller.
You should have a look at it
--
Jerome
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-02 9:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-29 20:58 [PATCH v1 0/6] clk: meson: introduce Amlogic A1 SoC Family CPU clock controller driver Dmitry Rokosov
2024-03-29 20:58 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] dt-bindings: clock: meson: a1: pll: introduce new syspll bindings Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-01 14:20 ` Rob Herring
2024-04-01 17:22 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2024-03-29 20:58 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] clk: meson: a1: pll: support 'syspll' general-purpose PLL for CPU clock Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-02 9:00 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-02 12:15 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-02 14:27 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-02 15:00 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2024-03-29 20:58 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] dt-bindings: clock: meson: a1: peripherals: support sys_pll_div16 input Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-01 14:21 ` Rob Herring
2024-04-01 17:19 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2024-03-29 20:58 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] clk: meson: a1: peripherals: support 'sys_pll_div16' clock as GEN input Dmitry Rokosov
2024-03-29 20:58 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] dt-bindings: clock: meson: add A1 CPU clock controller bindings Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-01 14:57 ` Rob Herring
2024-03-29 20:58 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] clk: meson: a1: add Amlogic A1 CPU clock controller driver Dmitry Rokosov
2024-03-31 21:40 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2024-04-01 17:12 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-02 9:27 ` Jerome Brunet [this message]
2024-04-02 11:43 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-02 9:35 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-02 11:05 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-02 14:11 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-04-02 16:11 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2024-04-02 16:17 ` Jerome Brunet
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