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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Bill Crawford <billc@netcomuk.co.uk>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@innominate.de>
Subject: Re: Hashing and directories
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 02:02:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000101020213.D28@(none)> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A959BFD.B18F833@netcomuk.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <3A959BFD.B18F833@netcomuk.co.uk>; from billc@netcomuk.co.uk on Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 11:08:45PM +0000

Hi!

>  I was hoping to point out that in real life, most systems that
> need to access large numbers of files are already designed to do
> some kind of hashing, or at least to divide-and-conquer by using
> multi-level directory structures.

Yes -- because their workaround kernel slowness.

I had to do this kind of hashing because kernel disliked 70000 html
files (copy of train time tables).

BTW try rm * with 70000 files in directory -- command line will overflow.

>  A particular reason for this, apart from filesystem efficiency,
> is to make it easier for people to find things, as it is usually
> easier to spot what you want amongst a hundred things than among
> a thousand or ten thousand.

Yes? Easier to type cat timetab1/2345 that can timetab12345? With bigger
command line size, putting i into *one& directory is definitely easier.


>  A couple of practical examples from work here at Netcom UK (now
> Ebone :), would be say DNS zone files or user authentication data.
> We use Solaris and NFS a lot, too, so large directories are a bad
> thing in general for us, so we tend to subdivide things using a
> very simple scheme: taking the first letter and then sometimes
> the second letter or a pair of letters from the filename.  This
> actually works extremely well in practice, and as mentioned above
> provides some positive side-effects.

Positive? Try listing all names that contain "linux" with such case. I'll
do ls *linux*. You'll need ls */*linux* ?l/inux* li/nux*. Seems ugly to
me.
								Pavel
-- 
Philips Velo 1: 1"x4"x8", 300gram, 60, 12MB, 40bogomips, linux, mutt,
details at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/velo/index.html.


  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-01 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-22 23:08 Hashing and directories Bill Crawford
2000-01-01  2:02 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-03-01 20:54   ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-01 21:05     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-01 21:13       ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-01 21:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-02  9:04         ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-02 12:01           ` Oystein Viggen
2001-03-02 12:26             ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-03-02 12:58           ` David Weinehall
2001-03-02 19:33           ` Tim Wright
2001-03-12 10:05           ` Herbert Xu
2001-03-12 10:43             ` Xavier Bestel
2001-03-01 21:23       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-03-01 21:26       ` Bill Crawford
2001-03-01 21:05     ` Tigran Aivazian
2001-03-02  8:56       ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-07  0:37         ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-07  4:03           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-07 13:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-02  9:00     ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-03  0:03   ` Bill Crawford
2001-03-08 12:42   ` Goswin Brederlow
2001-04-27 16:20     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-02-22 23:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-22 23:54   ` Bill Crawford
2001-03-10 11:22 ` Kai Henningsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-07 15:56 Manfred Spraul
2001-03-07 16:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-07 16:23   ` Manfred Spraul
2001-03-07 18:21     ` Linus Torvalds

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