From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
dean gaudet <dean-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org>,
Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jonathan Thackray <jthackray@zeus.com>
Subject: Re: 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()]
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 02:02:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000101020220.A26@(none)> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101152056170.12667-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101161020200.673-100000@elte.hu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101161020200.673-100000@elte.hu>; from mingo@elte.hu on Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:48:34AM +0100
Hi!
> struct safe_kpointer {
> void *kaddr;
> unsigned long fingerprint[4];
> };
>
> the kernel can validate kaddr by 1) validating the pointer via the master
> fingerprint (every valid kernel pointer must point to a structure that
> starts with the master fingerprint's copy). Then usage-permissions are
> validated by checking the file fingerprint (the per-object fingerprint).
>
> this is a safe, very fast [ O(1) ] object-permission model. (it's a
> variation of a former idea of yours.) A process can pass object
> fingerprints and kernel pointers to other processes too - thus the other
> process can access the object too. Threads will 'naturally' share objects,
> because fingerprints are typically stored in memory.
I do not know if I'd trust this.
First,
(fd < current->fdlimit && current->fdlist[fd])
if O(1), too. Sure, passing those is slightly hard, but we can do that already.
With your proposal, all hopes for fuser and revoke are out.
Ouch; you say process can pass it to other process. How will kernel know not
to free fd until _both_ freed it?
Plus, you are playing tricks with random numbers. Up to now, only ssh and
similar depended on random numbers. Now kernel relies on them during boot.
Notice that most important "master fingerprint" is generated first. At that
timeyou might not have enough entropy in your pools.
Pavel
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-14 18:29 Is sendfile all that sexy? jamal
2001-01-14 18:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 19:02 ` jamal
2001-01-14 19:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 19:18 ` jamal
2001-01-14 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 20:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 21:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 21:54 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-01-14 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 22:45 ` J Sloan
2001-01-15 20:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 3:43 ` Michael Peddemors
2001-01-15 13:02 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-15 13:45 ` Tristan Greaves
2001-01-15 1:14 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-15 15:24 ` Jonathan Thackray
2001-01-15 15:36 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-15 20:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 16:05 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-15 18:34 ` Jonathan Thackray
2001-01-15 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 20:47 ` [patch] sendpath() support, 2.4.0-test3/-ac9 Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 4:51 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-16 4:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-16 9:48 ` 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()] Ingo Molnar
2000-01-01 2:02 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2001-01-16 11:13 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 11:37 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 12:04 ` O_ANY [was: Re: 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()]] Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:13 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 12:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 14:40 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 12:34 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 13:00 ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2001-01-16 13:57 ` 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()] Jamie Lokier
2001-01-16 14:27 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 4:39 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-16 9:19 ` [patch] sendpath() support, 2.4.0-test3/-ac9 Ingo Molnar
2001-01-17 0:03 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-15 18:58 ` Is sendfile all that sexy? dean gaudet
2001-01-15 19:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-15 20:33 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-15 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-16 10:40 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 11:56 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:47 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 13:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-16 14:20 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 15:05 ` David L. Parsley
2001-01-16 15:05 ` Jakub Jelinek
2001-01-16 15:46 ` David L. Parsley
2001-01-18 14:00 ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-01-17 19:27 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-24 0:58 ` Sasi Peter
2001-01-24 8:44 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-25 10:20 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-25 10:58 ` Sasi Peter
2001-01-26 6:10 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-26 11:46 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:12 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-15 23:16 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-16 13:47 ` jamal
2001-01-16 14:41 ` Pavel Machek
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