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From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@flugsvamp.com>,
	Gideon Glass <gid@cisco.com>, Simon Kirby <sim@stormix.com>,
	Dan Kegel <dank@alumni.caltech.edu>,
	chat@FreeBSD.ORG, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kqueue microbenchmark results
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:46:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001026184649.U28123@fw.wintelcom.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001026201042.A38500@prism.flugsvamp.com> <E13oyOE-00044z-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E13oyOE-00044z-00@the-village.bc.nu>; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 02:32:59AM +0100

* Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> [001026 18:33] wrote:
> > the application of a close event.  What can I say, "the fd formerly known
> > as X" is now gone?  It would be incorrect to say that "fd X was closed",
> > since X no longer refers to anything, and the application may have reused
> > that fd for another file.
> 
> Which is precisely why you need to know where in the chain of events this
> happened. Otherwise if I see
> 
> 	'read on fd 5'
> 	'read on fd 5'
> 
> How do I know which read is for which fd in the multithreaded case

No you don't, you don't see anything with the current code unless
fd 5 is still around, what you're presenting to Jonathan is a
application threading problem, not something that need to be
resolved by the OS.

> > As for the multi-thread case, this would be a bug; if one thread closes
> > the descriptor, the other thread is going to get an EBADF when it goes 
> > to perform the read.
> 
> Another thread may already have reused the fd

This is another example of an application threading problem.

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-27  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20001024225637.A54554@prism.flugsvamp.com>
     [not found] ` <39F6655A.353FD236@alumni.caltech.edu>
     [not found]   ` <20001025010246.B57913@prism.flugsvamp.com>
     [not found]     ` <20001025112709.A1500@stormix.com>
     [not found]       ` <20001025122307.B78130@prism.flugsvamp.com>
     [not found]         ` <20001025114028.F12064@stormix.com>
     [not found]           ` <20001025165626.B87091@prism.flugsvamp.com>
     [not found]             ` <39F7F66C.55B158@cisco.com>
2000-10-26 16:50               ` kqueue microbenchmark results Jonathan Lemon
2000-10-27  0:50                 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-27  1:02                   ` Alfred Perlstein
2000-10-27  1:10                   ` Jonathan Lemon
2000-10-27  1:32                     ` Alan Cox
2000-10-27  1:46                       ` Alfred Perlstein [this message]
2000-10-27 16:21                       ` Dan Kegel
2000-10-27 16:42                         ` Alfred Perlstein
2000-10-27 23:08                         ` Terry Lambert
2000-10-28  0:24                           ` Dan Kegel
     [not found] <200010260610.XAA11949@usr08.primenet.com>
2000-10-26 18:08 ` Terry Lambert
     [not found] <20001025172702.B89038@prism.flugsvamp.com>
     [not found] ` <NCBBLIEPOCNJOAEKBEAKCEOPLHAA.davids@webmaster.com>
     [not found]   ` <20001025161837.D28123@fw.wintelcom.net>
2000-10-27 15:20     ` Jamie Lokier
2000-10-27 16:03       ` Alfred Perlstein

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