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From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@vger.timpanogas.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.2.18Pre Lan Performance Rocks!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:20:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001030002019.B19136@vger.timpanogas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001030080858.A32204@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010300924140.1270-100000@elte.hu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010300924140.1270-100000@elte.hu>; from mingo@elte.hu on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:26:59AM +0100

On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:26:59AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> > One problem in Linux 2.2 is that kernel threads reload their VM on
> > context switch (that would include the nfsd thread), this should be
> > fixed in 2.4 with lazy mm. Hmm actually it should be only fixed for
> > true kernel threads that have been started with kernel_thread(), the
> > "pseudo kernel threads" like nfsd uses probably do not get that
> > optimization because they don't set their MM to init_mm.
> 
> yes, but for this there is an explicit mechanizm to lazy-MM during lengthy
> system calls, an example is in buffer.c:
> 
>                 user_mm = start_lazy_tlb();
>                 error = sync_old_buffers();
>                 end_lazy_tlb(user_mm);
> 
> > > to get disproportiantely higher in Linux than NetWare 5.x and when it hits
> > > 60% of total clock cycles, Linux starts dropping off.  NetWare 5.x is 1/8 
> > 
> > I think that can be explained by the copying.
> 
> yes. Constant copying contaminates the L1/L2 caches and creates dirty
> cachelines all around the place. Fixed in 2.4 + TUX ;-)
> 

Ingo, we need a build option to completely disable multiple address spaces
for a start, and just map everything to a linear address space.  This 
will eliminate the overhead of the CR3 activity.  The use of segment registers
for copy_to_user, etc. causes segment register reloads, which are very 
heavyweight on Intel.  

Is there an option to map Linux into a flat address space like NetWare so
I can do an apples to apples comparison of raw LAN I/O scaling?   


> 	Ingo
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Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-29 23:19 2.2.18Pre Lan Performance Rocks! Jeff V. Merkey
     [not found] ` <E13q2R7-0006S7-00@the-village.bc.nu>
2000-10-30  1:35   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30  6:47     ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30  6:58       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30  7:08         ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30  7:16           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30  7:38             ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30  8:04               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30  8:16                 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30 12:47                 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-30 12:50                   ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30  8:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  7:20             ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
2000-10-30  8:39               ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  8:08                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30  9:52                   ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  8:55                     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:13                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  9:11                         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:41                           ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  9:33                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:56                               ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  9:45                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:04                               ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  9:56                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:13                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 10:08                                     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 17:41                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-30 17:58                                       ` Chris Evans
2000-10-30 18:01                                         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 18:21                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-30 17:59                                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31  8:08                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 20:04                                           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 19:11                                       ` Dan Hollis
2000-10-31 18:59                                         ` Pavel Machek
2000-10-30 10:27                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  9:20                         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:44                           ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  9:38                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:01                               ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  9:54                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:12                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 10:06                                     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:56                                       ` john slee
2000-10-30 18:04                                         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:31                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 12:57                                   ` Alan Cox
2000-10-30 17:55                                     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 18:34                                       ` Alan Cox
2000-10-30 21:17                                         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31  9:25                                         ` Erik Andersen
2000-10-31 18:50                               ` Pavel Machek
2000-10-31 20:06                                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 20:13                                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:31                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 21:56                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 21:57                                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  0:27                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 23:18                                     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  0:47                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-11-01  0:56                                       ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found]                                       ` <20001102031546.B10806@cerebro.laendle>
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2000-11-02 22:46                                                           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-03  0:12                                                             ` Davide Libenzi
2000-11-02 23:00                                                               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:34                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 21:52                                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:05                                     ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-31 22:23                                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:45                                         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:44                                           ` David Lang
2000-10-31 22:57                                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:52                                               ` David Lang
2000-10-31 23:02                                           ` Alan Cox
2000-10-31 23:03                                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  0:08                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 22:59                                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  2:30                                           ` Horst von Brand
2000-10-31 23:05                                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-10-31 23:14                                           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  0:32                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 23:23                                               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  0:55                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 23:54                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 22:47                                           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:56                                             ` Larry McVoy
2000-10-31 22:55                                               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  0:10                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2000-11-01  5:38                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2000-11-03  6:42                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2000-10-31 22:59                                     ` Michael H. Warfield
2000-10-31 23:12                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 22:28                                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  5:01                                         ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-01  5:09                                           ` Larry McVoy
2000-11-01  5:20                                             ` Peter Samuelson
2000-10-30 10:50                           ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30  9:40                             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 23:26                 ` David Woodhouse
2000-10-30 23:49                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 23:34                     ` Roger Larsson
2000-10-31 15:18 ` Reto Baettig
2000-10-31 20:26   ` Alan Cox
2000-10-31 15:30     ` Reto Baettig
2000-10-31 20:37       ` Alan Cox
2000-10-31 20:48         ` Jesse Pollard
2000-10-31 20:58           ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01  1:33           ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-01  3:42             ` Jesse Pollard
2000-11-01 13:26               ` Horst von Brand
2000-10-31 21:43     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:50       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 20:36   ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 15:47     ` Reto Baettig
2000-10-31 21:05       ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 21:33     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:48       ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 16:54         ` Reto Baettig
2000-10-31 21:58           ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 21:53         ` Jeff V. Merkey
     [not found] <200010300823.BAA19834@vger.timpanogas.org>
2000-10-30  8:36 ` Jeff V. Merkey
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-10-31 21:36 Paul Menage
2000-10-31 21:44 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:44   ` David S. Miller
2000-10-31 22:05   ` Larry McVoy
2000-10-31 22:15     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:27       ` Larry McVoy
2000-10-31 22:38         ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:48           ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 22:50             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:49           ` Larry McVoy
2000-10-31 22:53             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 23:15           ` Nathan Paul Simons
2000-10-31 23:20             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  0:00               ` Michael H. Warfield
2000-11-01  0:07                 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01  0:13                   ` Michael H. Warfield
2000-11-01  1:30           ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]             ` <20001031183809.C9733@.timpanogas.org>
2000-11-01 15:41               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-01 17:25                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 17:35                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 18:07                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-01 18:34                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 21:13                         ` Daniel Phillips
2000-11-01 21:32                           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01  9:51           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2000-11-01 17:28             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-02 21:58             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2000-11-01 11:13           ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-01 15:00             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-31 23:21 ` Matti Aarnio
2000-10-31 23:39   ` David Weinehall

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