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From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens)
Cc: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds),
	jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com (Jeff Garzik),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (Kernel Mailing List)
Subject: Re: test10-pre7
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:37:09 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200010310937.JAA07048@brick.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12109.972949137@ocs3.ocs-net> from "Keith Owens" at Oct 31, 2000 10:38:57 AM

Keith Owens writes:
> kbuild 2.5 splits link order into three categories.  Those that must
> come first, in the order they are specified - LINK_FIRST.  Those that
> must come last, in the order they are specified - LINK_LAST.

Keith, this sounds like a K-ludge.

Take the instance where we need to link a.o first, z.o second, f.o third
and p.o fourth.  How does LINK_FIRST / LINK_LAST guarantee this?

LINK_FIRST = a.o z.o
LINK_LAST = f.o p.o

But then what guarantees that 'a.o' will be linked before 'z.o'?

A first/last implementation can *not* specify precisely a link order without
guaranteeing that the order of the LINK_FIRST *and* the LINK_LAST objects
is preserved, which incidentally is the same requirement for the obj-y
implementation.

I don't see what this LINK_FIRST / LINK_LAST gains us other than more
complexity for zero gain.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-10-31 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-30 19:32 test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 20:34 ` [PATCH] test10-pre7 Alexander Viro
2000-10-30 21:02   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 21:23     ` Alexander Viro
2000-10-30 22:01       ` Alexander Viro
2000-10-30 23:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:14           ` Alexander Viro
2000-10-30 23:17             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 22:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 22:06   ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 10:05   ` John Kennedy
2000-10-30 21:37 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 22:01   ` test10-pre7 Jeff Garzik
2000-10-30 22:06     ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 22:13       ` test10-pre7 Jeff Garzik
2000-10-30 22:24     ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 22:41       ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 22:51         ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:02           ` test10-pre7 Jeff Garzik
2000-10-30 23:04             ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 23:08             ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:03           ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 23:15             ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:32               ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-30 23:40                 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:45                   ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-30 23:51                     ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:57                       ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-31  0:47                         ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31  1:01                           ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-31  2:54                             ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31  1:49                           ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-31  2:07                             ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-31  2:58                             ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 13:55                               ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 17:29                                 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 17:38                                   ` test10-pre7 H. Peter Anvin
2000-10-31 19:51                                     ` test10-pre7 Horst von Brand
2000-11-01  2:32                                   ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31  4:57                             ` test10-pre7 Rusty Russell
2000-10-31  6:10                               ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:38               ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 23:47                 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31  0:03                   ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-31  9:37                 ` Russell King [this message]
2000-10-31 14:02                   ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-31 14:16                     ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 17:31                     ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 19:28                       ` test10-pre7 Russell King
2000-10-31 20:59                         ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-11-01  0:16                           ` test10-pre7 (LINK ordering) Randy Dunlap
2000-11-01  0:52                             ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-01  3:06                         ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-11-01  2:35                       ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-11-01 12:46                         ` test10-pre7 Alan Cox
2000-10-31 11:59               ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 21:01                 ` test10-pre7 John Alvord
2000-11-01  3:30                   ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31  8:18       ` test10-pre7 Rogier Wolff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-10-31  0:52 test10-pre7 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2000-10-31  1:05 ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-31 16:15 test10-pre7 Vladislav Malyshkin
2000-10-31 16:45 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 18:07   ` test10-pre7 Vladislav Malyshkin
2000-10-31 18:38     ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 19:16       ` test10-pre7 H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-01  3:15         ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-11-01  6:11           ` test10-pre7 H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-01  6:31             ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-11-01  7:42     ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-11-03 16:26       ` test10-pre7 Vladislav Malyshkin

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