From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Paul Menage <pmenage@ensim.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.2.18Pre Lan Performance Rocks!
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:27:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001031142733.A23516@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E13qj56-0003h9-00@pmenage-dt.ensim.com> <39FF3D53.C46EB1A8@timpanogas.org> <20001031140534.A22819@work.bitmover.com> <39FF4488.83B6C1CE@timpanogas.org>
In-Reply-To: <39FF4488.83B6C1CE@timpanogas.org>
On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:15:37PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> The quality of the networking code in Linux is quite excellent. There's
> some scaling problems relative to NetWare. We are firmly committed to
> getting something out with a Linux code base and NetWare metrics. Love
> to have your help.
Jeff, I'm a little concerned with some of your statements. Netware may
be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it isn't a full operating
system, so comparing it to Linux is sort of meaningless. Consider your
recent context switch claims. Yes, I believe that you can do the moral
equiv of a longjmp() in the kernel in a few cycles, but that isn't a
context switch, at least, it isn't the same a context switch in the
operating system sense. It's different - last I checked, Netware was
essentially a kernel and nothing else. Is there a file system? Are there
processes with virtual memory? Are they preemptive? Does it support
all of P1003.1? Etc. If the answers to all of the above are "yes"
and you can support all that and get user to user context switches in a
clock cycle, well, jeez, you really do walk on water and I'll publicly
apologize for ever doubting your statements. On the other hand, if the
answers to that are not all "yes", then how about you do a little truth
in advertising with your postings? Without it, they are misleading to
the point of being purposefully deceptive.
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Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-10-31 21:36 2.2.18Pre Lan Performance Rocks! Paul Menage
2000-10-31 21:44 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:44 ` David S. Miller
2000-10-31 22:05 ` Larry McVoy
2000-10-31 22:15 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:27 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2000-10-31 22:38 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:48 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 22:50 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:49 ` Larry McVoy
2000-10-31 22:53 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 23:15 ` Nathan Paul Simons
2000-10-31 23:20 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 0:00 ` Michael H. Warfield
2000-11-01 0:07 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 0:13 ` Michael H. Warfield
2000-11-01 1:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <20001031183809.C9733@.timpanogas.org>
2000-11-01 15:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-01 17:25 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 17:35 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 18:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-01 18:34 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 21:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2000-11-01 21:32 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 9:51 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2000-11-01 17:28 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-02 21:58 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2000-11-01 11:13 ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-01 15:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-31 23:21 ` Matti Aarnio
2000-10-31 23:39 ` David Weinehall
[not found] <200010300823.BAA19834@vger.timpanogas.org>
2000-10-30 8:36 ` Jeff V. Merkey
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2000-10-29 23:19 Jeff V. Merkey
[not found] ` <E13q2R7-0006S7-00@the-village.bc.nu>
2000-10-30 1:35 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 6:47 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30 6:58 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 7:08 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30 7:16 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 7:38 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30 8:04 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 8:16 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30 12:47 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-30 12:50 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-30 8:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 7:20 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 8:08 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 9:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 8:55 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 9:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 9:33 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 9:45 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 9:56 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 10:08 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 17:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-30 17:58 ` Chris Evans
2000-10-30 18:01 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 18:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-30 17:59 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 20:04 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 19:11 ` Dan Hollis
2000-10-31 18:59 ` Pavel Machek
2000-10-30 10:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 9:20 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 9:38 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 9:54 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 10:06 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 10:56 ` john slee
2000-10-30 18:04 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 11:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 12:57 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-30 17:55 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 18:34 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-30 21:17 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 9:25 ` Erik Andersen
2000-10-31 18:50 ` Pavel Machek
2000-10-31 20:06 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 20:13 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 21:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 21:57 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 0:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 23:18 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 0:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-11-01 0:56 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <20001102031546.B10806@cerebro.laendle>
[not found] ` <20001101212835.A2425@vger.timpanogas.org>
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2000-11-02 22:46 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-03 0:12 ` Davide Libenzi
2000-11-02 23:00 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 21:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:05 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-31 22:23 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:45 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:44 ` David Lang
2000-10-31 22:57 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:52 ` David Lang
2000-10-31 23:02 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-31 23:03 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 0:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 22:59 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 2:30 ` Horst von Brand
2000-10-31 23:05 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-10-31 23:14 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 0:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 23:23 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 0:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 23:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 22:47 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 22:56 ` Larry McVoy
2000-10-31 22:55 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 0:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-11-01 5:38 ` Daniel Phillips
2000-11-03 6:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2000-10-31 22:59 ` Michael H. Warfield
2000-10-31 23:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-31 22:28 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-01 5:01 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-01 5:09 ` Larry McVoy
2000-11-01 5:20 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-10-30 10:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-30 9:40 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-30 23:26 ` David Woodhouse
2000-10-30 23:49 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 23:34 ` Roger Larsson
2000-10-31 15:18 ` Reto Baettig
2000-10-31 20:26 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-31 15:30 ` Reto Baettig
2000-10-31 20:37 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-31 20:48 ` Jesse Pollard
2000-10-31 20:58 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 1:33 ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-01 3:42 ` Jesse Pollard
2000-11-01 13:26 ` Horst von Brand
2000-10-31 21:43 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:50 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 20:36 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 15:47 ` Reto Baettig
2000-10-31 21:05 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 21:33 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-10-31 21:48 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 16:54 ` Reto Baettig
2000-10-31 21:58 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 21:53 ` Jeff V. Merkey
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