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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Peter Samuelson <peter@cadcamlab.org>
Cc: Michael Meissner <meissner@spectacle-pond.org>,
	"Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>,
	George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.redhat.com" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Where is it written?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 13:23:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001112132328.C2366@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001110184031.A2704@munchkin.spectacle-pond.org> <200011110011.eAB0BbF244111@saturn.cs.uml.edu> <20001110192751.A2766@munchkin.spectacle-pond.org> <20001111163204.B6367@inspiron.suse.de> <20001111171749.A32100@wire.cadcamlab.org>
In-Reply-To: <20001111171749.A32100@wire.cadcamlab.org>; from peter@cadcamlab.org on Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 05:17:49PM -0600

On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 05:17:49PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
> I'd say go for it -- set up a mailing list and flesh out a better x86
> ABI. [..]

I think it doesn't worth to break binary compatilibity at this late stage.

> design such.)  One issue: ideally you want to use 64-bit regs on AMD
> Hammer for long longs, but then you leave out all legacy x68s. :(

We can't in compatibilty mode because the rex regs are available _only_ in
64bit mode and even assuming the hardware would support that I would not
recommend that since as you said that binary would not run anymore on any other
x86 so causing pain.  Recompiling a program with native x86-64 gcc 64bit (that
uses the 64bit ABI) is the right way to go in that case (64bit mode uses 1
64bit register for long long as all other 64bit architectures of course).

> AIUI gcc can cope OK with multiple ABIs to be chosen at runtime, am I
> right?  IRIX, HP-UX and AIX all have both 32-bit and 64-bit ABIs.

Yes as in other systems, 32bit mode and 64bit mode needs different ABI and they
will coexist in the same system.

Andrea
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-11-12 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-10 16:37 Where is it written? George Anzinger
2000-11-10 23:40 ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-11  0:11   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-11  0:27     ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-11  1:10       ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11  1:28         ` Keith Owens
2000-11-11  1:33           ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-14  1:33             ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-11  5:17           ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-11 14:51             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 15:32       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 23:17         ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-11 23:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-12  4:54             ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-12  5:21               ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-12  5:36                 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-12  5:55                   ` Keith Owens
2000-11-12  9:35                 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-12 12:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2000-11-13  5:28             ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-12 15:35           ` Olaf Titz
2000-11-11  1:06     ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-10 23:49 ` H. Peter Anvin

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