From: Werner Almesberger <Werner.Almesberger@epfl.ch>
To: Andries Brouwer <aeb@veritas.com>
Cc: Tigran Aivazian <tigran@veritas.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0"
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:21:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001126072110.G599@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001125211939.A6883@veritas.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011252205500.768-100000@penguin.homenet> <20001126023239.B7049@veritas.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001126023239.B7049@veritas.com>; from aeb@veritas.com on Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 02:32:39AM +0100
Andries Brouwer wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 10:27:15PM +0000, Tigran Aivazian wrote:
I think it's a bad sign if people like the two of you start flaming
each other ...
On the issue of static int foo = 0; vs. static int foo; I'd agree
with Andries' view. It's a common enough idiom that it is useful to
convey the intentions of the programmer.
On "optimizing" changes: there are plenty of very ugly things you can
do to a C program to make source or object code smaller (e.g. use only
one-character identifiers for smaller code; re-use variables as much
as possible, maybe with casts for smaller stack footprint, etc.). We
usually avoid these too, so a few extra initializations in the source
shouldn't hurt.
On the .data segment size: if all the energy that went into this
thread would have gone into implementing a gcc option to move all-zero
.data objects to .bss, the technical side of the problem would be
solved already ;-)
> Does the kernel contain a bug? Panic! I don't think my alpha would
> have gotten an uptime of 1198 days under that paradigm.
> (I don't think you were serious, but still..)
Hmm, sometimes a panic _is_ the right answer, though. If a critical
subsystem just politely returns an error to user space and tries to
continue, it may take a while until somebody realizes that there's
something wrong at all ...
- Werner
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-11-25 20:19 [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0" Andries Brouwer
2000-11-25 21:07 ` Russell King
2000-11-25 21:29 ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26 1:19 ` Russell King
2000-11-25 22:11 ` Herbert Xu
2000-11-25 22:46 ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-25 22:53 ` James A Sutherland
2000-11-25 23:55 ` Tim Waugh
2000-11-26 3:10 ` James A Sutherland
2000-11-26 10:37 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26 14:52 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-11-28 0:01 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-27 4:00 ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-25 23:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-26 2:08 ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26 9:22 ` Martin Mares
2000-11-25 23:33 ` Herbert Xu
2000-11-27 10:03 ` Helge Hafting
2000-11-27 20:33 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-27 22:57 ` Russell King
2000-11-29 1:46 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-29 3:21 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-29 7:25 ` Russell King
2000-11-25 22:27 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26 1:32 ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26 2:11 ` Georg Nikodym
2000-11-26 4:25 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-26 5:01 ` John Alvord
2000-11-26 5:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-26 6:22 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-26 6:28 ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-26 10:43 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26 10:52 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-24 7:47 ` Pavel Machek
2000-11-26 14:32 ` bert hubert
2000-11-26 10:52 ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-26 14:13 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-11-26 15:19 ` Georg Nikodym
2000-11-26 20:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-27 21:12 ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-26 6:21 ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-26 15:15 Adam J. Richter
2000-11-26 17:53 Elmer Joandi
2000-11-26 18:36 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-26 19:11 ` Elmer Joandi
2000-11-26 22:49 ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-27 5:56 Adam J. Richter
2000-11-27 8:41 ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-27 8:39 ` David S. Miller
2000-11-27 9:08 ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-27 17:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-27 17:36 ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-27 19:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-27 19:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-28 0:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 11:25 ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-28 3:10 ` kumon
2000-11-28 3:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 3:35 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-28 4:15 ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-28 9:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2000-11-28 15:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 16:09 ` Andreas Schwab
2000-11-28 19:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 16:44 ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-27 21:27 ` Marcus Sundberg
2000-11-27 18:11 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-27 18:01 ` Michael Meissner
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