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From: Andries Brouwer <aeb@veritas.com>
To: Peter Cordes <peter@llama.nslug.ns.ca>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: access() says EROFS even for device files if /dev is mounted RO
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:42:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001127134251.A8164@veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001126233522.A436@llama.nslug.ns.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20001126233522.A436@llama.nslug.ns.ca>; from peter@llama.nslug.ns.ca on Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 11:35:22PM -0400

On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 11:35:22PM -0400, Peter Cordes wrote:

>  While doing some hdparm hacking, after booting with init=/bin/sh, I noticed
> that open(1) doesn't work when / is mounted read only.

Already long ago open(1) was renamed to openvt(1), so it may be that
have a very old version. See a recent kbd or console-tools.

> access("/dev/tty2", R_OK|W_OK)          = -1 EROFS (Read-only file system)

>  However, this is wrong.  You _can_ write to device files on read-only
> filesystems.  (open shouldn't bother calling access(), but the kernel should
> definitely give the right answer!)

You misunderstand the function of access(). The standard says

[EROFS] write access shall fail if write access is requested
        for a file on a read-only file system

It does not look at whether you ask write access to a directory
or a special device file (and whether the filesystem was mounted nodev or not).

So, probably you found a flaw in openvt: the use of access is almost always
a bug - it doesnt tell you what you want to know. You may send me a patch
if you want to.

On the other hand, on recent kernels access() doesnt fail in this situation.
That is a kernel bug, I suppose. Will investigate later.

Andries - aeb@cwi.nl
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-27 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-27  3:35 access() says EROFS even for device files if /dev is mounted RO Peter Cordes
2000-11-27 12:42 ` Andries Brouwer [this message]
2000-11-27 21:47   ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-28  0:09     ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-28 14:04       ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-28 21:37         ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-29 12:01           ` Hugh Dickins
2000-11-29 12:39             ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-29 15:46               ` Hugh Dickins
2000-11-29 16:18                 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-29 16:40                   ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-29 16:52                     ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-01 17:12                     ` Olivier Galibert
2000-12-01 17:59                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-29 16:24                 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-29 16:25                   ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-29 16:42                   ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-29 16:58                     ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-29 17:07                       ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-29 16:48                   ` Hugh Dickins
2000-11-29 14:24             ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-29 14:33               ` Broken NTFS Joseph K. Malek
2000-11-29 19:28                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-28 22:56   ` access() says EROFS even for device files if /dev is mounted RO Peter Cordes
2000-11-28 23:23     ` Alexander Viro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-29 17:17 Andries.Brouwer

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