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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: J Sloan <jjs@toyota.com>, Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [lkml]Re: VM problems still in 2.2.18
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:22:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001215192207.E17781@inspiron.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001215152908.M11505@inspiron.random> <E146z6f-0001ZD-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E146z6f-0001ZD-00@the-village.bc.nu>; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:57:18PM +0000

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:57:18PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> How hard is it to seperate losing kpiod (optimisation) from the MAP_SHARED 
> changes ? I am assuming they are two seperate issues, possibly wrongly

Losing kpiod isn't an optimization ;(. Losing kpiod is the MAP_SHARED bugfix.

The problem was:

o	swap_out
o	wants to flush a MAP_SHARED dirty page to disk
o	so allocate kpiod-struct
o	sumbit the page-flush request to kpiod
o	don't wait I/O completion to avoid deadlocking on the i_sem
o	swap_out returns 1 and memory balancing code so thinks we did progress
	in freeing memory and goes to allocate memory from the freelist
	without waiting I/O completion
o	repeat N times the above

o	in the meantime kpiod has a big queue but it's blocked slowly writing
	those pages to disk
o	while it writes a few pages swap_out floods again the queue
	without waiting and it empties the freelist (task killed)

The problem was the lack of write throttling due the kpiod async-only nature.

> Providing no inode semaphore is upped from a different task , which seems
> currently quite a valid legal thing to do (ditto doing the up on completion of
> something in bh or irq context)

Yes, the same `current' context must run the down/up pair of calls and as you
said it is legal to rely on it on all the places it's used.

Andrea
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-15 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-14  2:36 VM problems still in 2.2.18 Mark Symonds
2000-12-14  9:57 ` Alan Cox
2000-12-14 20:09   ` [lkml]Re: " thunder7
2000-12-14 22:38     ` Alan Cox
2000-12-14 22:39       ` J Sloan
2000-12-14 23:17         ` Alan Cox
2000-12-15 14:29           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-15 17:57             ` Alan Cox
2000-12-15 18:22               ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2000-12-15 18:46                 ` Alan Cox
2000-12-15 19:09                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-15 19:17                     ` Alan Cox
2000-12-16 10:49                   ` Chris Mason
2000-12-16 13:39                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-14 23:12       ` J . A . Magallon
2000-12-18  1:03       ` Mark Symonds
2000-12-15 18:30   ` Mark Symonds
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2000-12-15 13:00 [lkml]Re: " Ed Tomlinson
2000-12-15 17:52 ` Alan Cox

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