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From: "J . A . Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
To: Werner Almesberger <Werner.Almesberger@epfl.ch>
Cc: LA Walsh <law@sgi.com>, Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linus's include file strategy redux
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:48:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001215234857.A689@werewolf.able.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001215152137.K599@almesberger.net> <NBBBJGOOMDFADJDGDCPHAENMCJAA.law@sgi.com> <20001215222117.S573@almesberger.net>
In-Reply-To: <20001215222117.S573@almesberger.net>; from Werner.Almesberger@epfl.ch on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 22:21:17 +0100


On 2000/12/15 Werner Almesberger wrote:
> LA Walsh wrote:
> 
> Exception: opaque types; there one would have to go via a __ identifier,
> i.e.
> 
> <public>/foo.h defines  struct __foo ...;
> <public>/bar.h includes <public>/foo.h
>                and uses #define FOOSIZE sizeof(struct __foo)
> <private>/foo.h either  typedef struct __foo foo_t;
>                 or      #define foo __foo  /* ugly */
> 

Easier: public kernel interfaces only work through pointers.
<public>/foo.h typedef struct foo foo_t;
               foo_t* foo_new();
<private>/foo.h includes <public>/foo.h
               struct foo { ............... };
               and uses #define FOOSIZE sizeof(foo_t)

Drawback: public access is slow (always through foo_set_xxxx_field(foo_t*))
          private access from kernel or modules is fast (foo_t->x = ...)
Advantage: kernel can change, foo_t internals can change and it is binary
          compatible. Even public headers can be kernel version
          independent.

Too kind-of-classroom-not-real-world-useless-thing ?
All depends on public access needing full fast paths...

-- 
Juan Antonio Magallon Lacarta                                 #> cd /pub
mailto:jamagallon@able.es                                     #> more beer

Linux werewolf 2.2.19-pre1 #1 SMP Fri Dec 15 22:25:20 CET 2000 i686

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-12-15 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <91gr99$bs81o$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>
2000-12-14 23:55 ` Linus's include file strategy redux LA Walsh
2000-12-15  0:14   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-15  0:17     ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  0:39       ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-15  0:33     ` Alan Cox
2000-12-15  0:48       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  0:56         ` David Riley
2000-12-15  1:05           ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  4:24             ` ferret
2000-12-16 11:30       ` Marcus Sundberg
2000-12-15 14:57     ` Kurt Roeckx
2000-12-15 15:23       ` Dana Lacoste
2000-12-15 22:28         ` Alex Buell
2000-12-16 22:41         ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-18 15:51           ` Dana Lacoste
2000-12-18 17:08             ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-18 19:32             ` David Schleef
2000-12-18 17:04         ` richard offer
2000-12-19  5:16           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15  0:15   ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  7:21     ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 11:05       ` Chmouel Boudjnah
2000-12-15 14:21     ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 17:15       ` ferret
2000-12-15 17:46         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 20:29           ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-15 21:27             ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 22:58               ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-15 23:56                 ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-16 22:50                 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-17  0:04                   ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-17  2:05                     ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15 18:10       ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 21:02         ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-16  4:04           ` ferret
2000-12-16 11:09             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-16 17:20               ` ferret
2000-12-17  0:21                 ` J . A . Magallon
2000-12-16 23:10           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-17  1:15             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-17  2:18               ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15 21:21         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 21:36           ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 22:48           ` J . A . Magallon [this message]
2000-12-15 23:47             ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-16  4:11             ` ferret
2000-12-16  2:50         ` richard offer
2000-12-16  4:22           ` What about 'kernel package'? was: " ferret
2000-12-15 19:35       ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-12-15 21:36         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-18 17:48 Petr Vandrovec

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