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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: test13-pre5
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 19:10:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001231191045.B8027@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001231182127.A24348@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012310924500.4029-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012310924500.4029-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 09:27:23AM -0800

On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 09:27:23AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> The alpha systems I remember this problem on were all [..]

Yes the granularity issue has nothing to do with SMP (with preemptive kernel
it can trigger even without interrupts involved into the code). Also
CONFIG_SPACE_EFFICIENT looks not necessary.

The x8 name is confusing IMHO (when I read `8' I expect 8bits only, the x
isn't explicit enough). But by using a better name we could save some byte on
alpha ev6 and x86. Something like granular_char/granular_short/granular_int
looks nicer.  For the generic 64bit cpu they needs to be _unconditionally_
defined to `long'.

BTW, only old chips (ev[45]) doesn't provide byte granularity. Infact a linux
kernel compiled for ev6 can handle byte granularity also on alpha (it uses
-mcpu=ev6).

alpha reference manual 5.2.2:

	[..] For each region, an implementation must support aligned quadword
	access and may optionally support aligned longword access or byte
	access. If byte access is supported in a region, aligned word access
	and aligned longword access are also supported. [..]

21264hrm:

	[..] The 21264-generated external references to memory space are
	always of a fixed 64-byte size, though the internal access granularity
	is byte, word, longword, or quad-word. [..]

Andrea
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-12-31 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-28 20:25 test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-28 18:39 ` test13-pre5 Marcelo Tosatti
2000-12-28 20:59   ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-28 19:22     ` test13-pre5 Marcelo Tosatti
2000-12-28 21:21       ` [wildly off-topic] test13-pre5 Rik van Riel
2000-12-28 19:31         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2000-12-28 21:39     ` test13-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2000-12-28 22:14     ` test13-pre5 Marcelo Tosatti
2000-12-29  1:10       ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-29 12:06       ` test13-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2000-12-28 22:17     ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-28 22:33       ` test13-pre5 David S. Miller
2000-12-28 22:58         ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-28 22:54           ` test13-pre5 David S. Miller
2000-12-28 23:17             ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-28 23:14               ` test13-pre5 David S. Miller
2000-12-28 23:39                 ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-28 23:25               ` test13-pre5 Rik van Riel
2000-12-28 23:36               ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-28 23:03           ` test13-pre5 Rik van Riel
2000-12-29 15:46         ` test13-pre5 Mark Hemment
2000-12-29 16:30           ` test13-pre5 Tim Wright
2000-12-29 17:54             ` test13-pre5 Mark Hemment
2000-12-29 21:23           ` test13-pre5 David S. Miller
2000-12-29 21:51             ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-28 23:15       ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-28 23:25         ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-28 23:37           ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-28 23:43             ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-29  0:49             ` test13-pre5 Stefan Traby
2000-12-29  1:23               ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-29  1:06                 ` test13-pre5 Albert Cranford
2000-12-29 14:53                   ` test13-pre5 Stefan Traby
2000-12-30 13:24         ` test13-pre5 Geert Uytterhoeven
2000-12-31 17:21           ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-31 17:27             ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 17:36               ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-31 18:19                 ` test13-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31 18:06               ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-31 18:07               ` test13-pre5 Matti Aarnio
2000-12-31 19:15                 ` test13-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 19:49                   ` test13-pre5 Andi Kleen
2000-12-31 18:10               ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-01-01 19:58           ` test13-pre5 H. Peter Anvin
2000-12-29 16:49     ` [PATCH] filemap_fdatasync & related changes Marcelo Tosatti
2000-12-29 21:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-03 16:37       ` Chris Mason
2001-01-03 17:07         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-03 18:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-03 19:09           ` Chris Mason
2001-01-03 21:39             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-04 18:46           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-04  9:48         ` Christoph Rohland
2001-01-04 14:41           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-04 16:58             ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-04 17:38               ` Chris Mason
2001-01-04 18:00                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-04 22:52                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 15:30           ` Chris Mason
2001-01-04 17:01             ` Christoph Rohland
2000-12-28 21:27 ` test13-pre5 (via82cxxx_audio.c) Jonathan Hudson
2000-12-29 18:17 ` test13-pre5 Tom Rini

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