From: Steven Walter <srwalter@yahoo.com>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] prevention of syscalls from writable segments, breaking bug exploits
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:05:28 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010103160528.B13576@hapablap.dyn.dhs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101032259550.20246-100000@callisto.yi.org> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0101031648250.17363-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0101031648250.17363-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>; from viro@math.psu.edu on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 04:54:38PM -0500
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 04:54:38PM -0500, Alexander Viro wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Dan Aloni wrote:
>
> > It is known that most remote exploits use the fact that stacks are
> > executable (in i386, at least).
> >
> > On Linux, they use INT 80 system calls to execute functions in the kernel
> > as root, when the stack is smashed as a result of a buffer overflow bug in
> > various server software.
> >
> > This preliminary, small patch prevents execution of system calls which
> > were executed from a writable segment. It was tested and seems to work,
> > without breaking anything. It also reports of such calls by using printk.
>
> Get real. Attacker can set whatever registers he needs and jump to one
> of the many instances of int 0x80 in libc. There goes your protection.
>
> Win: 0
> Loss: cost of find_vma() (and down(&mm->mmap_sem), BTW) on every system
> call.
>
> And the reason to apply that patch would be...?
Should be a moot point, anyway, as x86 has a seperate stack for each
priviledge level. Even if the kernel somehow tried to execute code in a
lower priviledge segment (stack or otherwise) shouldn't a GPF get
generated?
--
-Steven
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-03 21:13 [RFC] prevention of syscalls from writable segments, breaking bug exploits Dan Aloni
2001-01-03 21:36 ` Dan Aloni
2001-01-03 21:48 ` [RFC] prevention of syscalls from writable segments, breaking bugexploits Brian Gerst
2001-01-03 21:54 ` [RFC] prevention of syscalls from writable segments, breaking bug exploits Alexander Viro
2001-01-03 22:03 ` Dan Aloni
2001-01-03 22:13 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-03 22:05 ` Steven Walter [this message]
2001-01-03 22:07 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-03 22:10 ` Doug McNaught
2001-01-03 22:31 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-03 22:39 ` Mark Zealey
2001-01-03 22:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-03 22:55 ` Mark Zealey
2001-01-03 22:48 ` Dan Aloni
2001-01-03 23:02 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-03 23:32 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-03 23:48 ` Nicolas Noble
2001-01-03 23:54 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-01-03 23:57 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-04 0:34 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-01-04 1:01 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-04 7:09 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-01-03 23:34 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-01-04 1:51 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-03 21:57 ` Erik Mouw
2001-01-03 22:12 ` Nicolas Noble
2001-01-03 22:30 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-03 23:02 ` [RFC] prevention of syscalls from writable segments, breaking bug Alan Cox
2001-01-05 15:26 ` 2.2.19pre6 maestro3 driver requires ac97_codec (but doesn't claim so) Richard A Nelson
2001-01-03 23:20 ` [RFC] prevention of syscalls from writable segments, breaking bug exploits Jeff Dike
2001-01-04 3:20 ` David Huggins-Daines
2001-01-04 3:32 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-04 3:41 ` David Huggins-Daines
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