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From: Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@innominate.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 22:08:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010104220821.B775@stefan.sime.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101031253130.6567-100000@springhead.px.uk.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101031325270.1403-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> <3A5352ED.A263672D@innominate.de> <20010104192104.C2034@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010104192104.C2034@redhat.com>; from sct@redhat.com on Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:21:04PM +0000

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:21:04PM +0000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:

> ext3 does the recovery automatically during mount(8), so user space
> will never see an unrecovered filesystem.  (There are filesystem flags
> set by the journal code to make sure that an unrecovered filesystem
> never gets mounted by a kernel which doesn't know how to do the
> appropriate recovery.)

I did not follow the ext3 development recently, how did you solve
the "read-only mount(2) (optionally on write protected media)" issue ?

Does the mount fail, or does the code virtually replays (without writing)
only ?

I think any other action (only replaying on rw mount and presenting
a broken filesystem on ro) is quite fatal, at least if I think of
a replay on -remount,rw :)

Also, an unconditional hidden replay even if "ro" is specified is not nice.

This is especially critical on root filesystem, because there is IMHO
no way to specify mount arguments to the "/" mount, except ro/rw.

-- 

  ciao - 
    Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-04 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-03 12:55 Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-03 15:26 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-03 15:38   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-01-03 16:18   ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-03 16:27   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-03 16:42     ` Alex Belits
2001-01-04  8:00       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 17:39         ` Alex Belits
2001-01-03 18:52     ` Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04  9:57       ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-04 10:14         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 10:25           ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 17:43           ` David Lang
2001-01-04 17:52             ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 18:00               ` David Lang
2001-01-04 18:11                 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05  4:12                   ` Chipzz
2001-01-05  4:18                     ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05 16:55                   ` Mike Touloumtzis
2001-01-05 16:57                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-05 22:09                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-04 17:59             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-04 18:10               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-04 18:15                 ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 18:19                   ` David Lang
2001-01-04 18:20                     ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 19:42                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-04 20:31                         ` egger
2001-01-04 20:59                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-04 21:05                             ` egger
2001-01-04 22:45                             ` Erik Mouw
2001-01-04 18:23                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-05 12:04                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 18:21               ` Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04 18:11             ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 21:00         ` Brett G. Person
2001-01-05 22:05         ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-04 19:21     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-04 21:08       ` Stefan Traby [this message]
2001-01-04 22:49         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05  1:01           ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-05  8:10             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-05 11:05             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05 11:58         ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-06 19:57           ` Marc Lehmann
2001-01-06 20:09             ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-06 20:35               ` Chris Mason
2001-01-06 21:49                 ` Marc Lehmann
2001-01-08 12:02             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09  9:34               ` Roger Gammans
2001-01-05  0:31       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-05  8:00         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-05 12:46           ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05 12:59             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-05 13:22             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05 10:31         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
     [not found] <fa.e3022cv.v2ucim@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.naq8vev.74ai08@ifi.uio.no>
2001-01-04 22:38   ` Dan Maas
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2001-01-08 23:19 Bernd Eckenfels

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