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From: Mike Touloumtzis <miket@bluemug.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@innominate.de>,
	Helge Hafting <helgehaf@idb.hist.no>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:55:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010105085514.A12902@bluemug.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0101040954040.10387-100000@dlang.diginsite.com> <E14EEr4-000697-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E14EEr4-000697-00@the-village.bc.nu>; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 06:11:11PM +0000

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 06:11:11PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > in an enbedded device you can
> > 1. setup the power switch so it doesn't actually turn things off (it
> > issues the shutdown command instead)
> 
> Costs too much money

Many newer cell phones, even low spec ones, will have a software
power switch (usually with a hardware override after about 5 seconds
of continuous press).  There are many other concessions that need to
be made to power efficiency, like the ability to toggle power to even
very minor peripherals and chips (not only each CPU and DSP, but the bus
controllers and UARTs connecting things together).  These things sell
in the millions, so their designers can easily budget the custom logic.

miket

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-05 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-03 12:55 Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-03 15:26 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-03 15:38   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-01-03 16:18   ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-03 16:27   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-03 16:42     ` Alex Belits
2001-01-04  8:00       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 17:39         ` Alex Belits
2001-01-03 18:52     ` Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04  9:57       ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-04 10:14         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-04 10:25           ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 17:43           ` David Lang
2001-01-04 17:52             ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 18:00               ` David Lang
2001-01-04 18:11                 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05  4:12                   ` Chipzz
2001-01-05  4:18                     ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05 16:55                   ` Mike Touloumtzis [this message]
2001-01-05 16:57                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-05 22:09                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-04 17:59             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-04 18:10               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-04 18:15                 ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 18:19                   ` David Lang
2001-01-04 18:20                     ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 19:42                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-04 20:31                         ` egger
2001-01-04 20:59                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-04 21:05                             ` egger
2001-01-04 22:45                             ` Erik Mouw
2001-01-04 18:23                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-05 12:04                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-04 18:21               ` Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04 18:11             ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-04 21:00         ` Brett G. Person
2001-01-05 22:05         ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-04 19:21     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-04 21:08       ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-04 22:49         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05  1:01           ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-05  8:10             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-05 11:05             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05 11:58         ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-06 19:57           ` Marc Lehmann
2001-01-06 20:09             ` Stefan Traby
2001-01-06 20:35               ` Chris Mason
2001-01-06 21:49                 ` Marc Lehmann
2001-01-08 12:02             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09  9:34               ` Roger Gammans
2001-01-05  0:31       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-05  8:00         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-05 12:46           ` Alan Cox
2001-01-05 12:59             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-05 13:22             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-05 10:31         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
     [not found] <fa.e3022cv.v2ucim@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.naq8vev.74ai08@ifi.uio.no>
2001-01-04 22:38   ` Dan Maas
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2001-01-08 23:19 Bernd Eckenfels

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