From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:44:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:43:56 -0500 Received: from [194.213.32.137] ([194.213.32.137]:6148 "EHLO bug.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:43:44 -0500 Message-ID: <20010105230950.B301@bug.ucw.cz> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:09:50 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: David Lang , David Woodhouse Cc: Daniel Phillips , Helge Hafting , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? In-Reply-To: <10290.978630745@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: ; from David Lang on Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:00:01AM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > 1. setup the power switch so it doesn't actually turn things off (it > issues the shutdown command instead) Evil. Devices that are powered off should stay powered off, and there should be big mechanical switch to do that, so that no EMI or power glitch can make them power up. Also thing about cases where powerplant fails, or when electricity in the house fails. I've seen places where electricity failed 5 times a day, because someone put 10A fuse and we were using just about 2kW... Pavel -- I'm pavel@ucw.cz. "In my country we have almost anarchy and I don't care." Panos Katsaloulis describing me w.r.t. patents at discuss@linmodems.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/