Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?

Dr. David Gilbert
2001-01-04T18:22:50Z

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote:

> > for crying out loud, even windows tells the users they need to shutdown
> > first and gripes at them if they pull the plug. what users are you trying
> > to protect, ones to clueless to even run windows?
>
> Clueless ? Hardly. Every other appliance in the home you turn it off and it
> goes off. You turn it on and it comes on. You get confused you turn it off and
> on. Its the definitive model of how home appliances works and its how people
> expect them to work.

I can see both sides of the argument - consider your video - users can
switch that off without thinking; but really its off switch is soft and
actually unloads the tape from the heads first before switching off.

Having said that look at something like test equipments; you can just pull
the power on them - I don't think large scopes/logic analysers with discs
in have anything clever hardware wise to to a careful switch off.
(Some of these are running Win98 and some HP-UX these days with
journalling stuff in).

Dave

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