From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@caldera.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, riel@conectiva.com.br, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:28:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010109122810.A3115@caldera.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101081603080.21675-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101091051460.1159-100000@e2> <20010109113145.A28758@caldera.de> <200101091031.CAA01242@pizda.ninka.net>
In-Reply-To: <200101091031.CAA01242@pizda.ninka.net>; from davem@redhat.com on Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:31:13AM -0800
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:31:13AM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:31:45 +0100
> From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@caldera.de>
>
> Yuck. A new file_opo just to get a few benchmarks right ... I
> hope the writepages stuff will not be merged in Linus tree (but I
> wish the code behind it!)
>
> It's a "I know how to send a page somewhere via this filedescriptor
> all by myself" operation. I don't see why people need to take
> painkillers over this for 2.4.x. I think f_op->write is stupid, such
> a special case file operation just to get a few benchmarks right.
> This is the kind of argument I am hearing.
>
> Orthogonal to f_op->write being for specifying a low-level
> implementation of sys_write, f_op->writepage is for specifying a
> low-level implementation of sys_sendfile. Can you grok that?
Sure. But sendfile is not one of the fundamental UNIX operations...
If there was no alternative to this I would probably have not said
anything, but with the rw_kiovec file op just before the door I don't
see any reason to add this _very_ specific file operation.
An alloc_kiovec before and an free_kiovec after the actual call
and the memory overhaed of a kiobuf won't hurt so much that it stands
against a clean interface, IMHO.
>
> Linus has already seen this. Originally he had a gripe because in an
> older revision of the code used to allow multiple pages to be passed
> in an array to the writepage(s) operation. He didn't like that, so I
> made it take only one page as he requested. He had no other major
> objections to the infrastructure.
You get that multiple page call with kiobufs for free...
Christoph
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Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-08 1:24 [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 David S. Miller
2001-01-08 10:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-08 10:34 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-08 18:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 21:07 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 10:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 10:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 10:31 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 11:28 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2001-01-09 11:42 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 12:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 14:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 15:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 15:27 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 16:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 16:37 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 16:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:29 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 17:38 ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 18:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 19:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 20:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10 0:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 20:12 ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 23:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 23:34 ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 23:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-17 5:16 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-09 17:56 ` Chris Evans
2001-01-09 18:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 22:58 ` [patch]: ac4 blk (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1) Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 19:20 ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 J Sloan
2001-01-09 18:10 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:38 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 16:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:30 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 18:12 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 18:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 21:13 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 20:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 20:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 21:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 7:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-10 8:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 8:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-10 8:37 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-10 23:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-19 15:55 ` Andrew Scott
2001-01-17 14:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-18 0:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-18 1:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-18 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 21:12 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-19 1:52 ` 2.4.1-pre8 video/ohci1394 compile problem ebi4
2001-01-19 6:55 ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 23:06 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 7:51 ` Gerd Knorr
2001-01-12 1:42 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 11:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 18:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 19:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:18 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 14:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 15:17 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 21:18 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 22:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 15:21 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:25 ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-09 15:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 15:48 ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-10 1:14 ` Dave Zarzycki
2001-01-10 1:14 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 2:18 ` Dave Zarzycki
2001-01-10 1:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10 2:56 ` storage over IP (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1) dean gaudet
2001-01-10 2:58 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 3:18 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-10 3:09 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 3:05 ` storage over IP (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, Alan Cox
2001-01-08 21:56 ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 Jes Sorensen
2001-01-08 21:48 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-08 22:32 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-01-08 22:36 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 12:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-08 22:43 ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-08 22:37 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 13:52 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-09 13:42 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 15:27 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-09 21:19 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 9:21 ` Trond Myklebust
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-09 13:08 Stephen Landamore
2001-01-09 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 13:47 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-09 19:15 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 19:14 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 22:03 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 22:58 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 22:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 23:11 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-10 3:24 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-09 17:46 Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10 8:41 Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10 8:31 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 11:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10 12:03 ` Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10 12:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10 16:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-13 15:43 ` yodaiken
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