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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Zlatko Calusic <zlatko@iskon.hr>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Subtle MM bug
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:33:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010110193340.D29093@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101092255510.3414-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <18634.979127163@redhat.com> <20010110155624.D19503@athlon.random> <m1elybgv1c.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
In-Reply-To: <m1elybgv1c.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>; from ebiederm@xmission.com on Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 10:46:07AM -0700

On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 10:46:07AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Why do we even want to do reverse page tables?
> It seems everyone is assuming this is a good thing and except for being

I'm not assuming it's a good thing, but I believe it's something to try.

> My impression with the MM stuff is that everyone except linux is
> trying hard to clone BSD instead of thinking through the issues
> ourselves.

I wasn't even thinking about BSD and I always though about the issues myself,
no panic ;).

> And because of the extra overhead this doesn't look to be a win on a
> heavily loaded box with no swap.  And probably only glibc mmaped.

It can make sense also without swap. We could drop clean pages from the lru
directly that way without wasting time on pages that we don't have a chance to
free (incidentally it's exactly the optimization requested by David W. for
embedded systems).  Note that I'm not convinced that it would be worthwhile to
separate the anonymous and shm pages from the other mapped pages but in theory
we could do that.

I didn't meant that it is certainly the right way to go, but with reverse
lookup we could do very ""interesting"" things and I think it's worthwhile to
research and benchmark what happens (note also that depending on the
implementation very different things can happen at runtime)

Andrea
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-10 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-08  5:29 Subtle MM bug Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08  5:42 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-08  6:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 17:44     ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 18:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 17:16 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 17:58   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 23:41     ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09  2:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09  6:20       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-09  7:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 11:38           ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-09 12:29           ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09 18:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 19:09               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-09 19:29                 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-10 17:32                   ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:31                     ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:33                       ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:40                         ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:43                           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:48                             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:48                               ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11  9:51                               ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-10 20:11                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-11 12:56                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 13:10                           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11 13:12                           ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-11 14:13                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:03                               ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-11 19:47                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:57                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-11 16:50                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-11 17:35                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:38                               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-11 19:01                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-09 19:37                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17  8:46                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-25 22:51                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-09 19:53               ` Simon Kirby
2001-01-09 20:08                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:10                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-10  1:45               ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-10  2:26                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10  6:57                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 11:46                   ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-10 14:56                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10 17:46                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-10 18:33                         ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-01-17 14:26                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-10 19:03                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 19:27                           ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 19:36                           ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 23:56                             ` David Weinehall
2001-01-11  0:24                               ` Alan Cox
2001-01-12  5:56                               ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-12 16:10                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-12 21:11                                   ` Russell King
2001-01-15  2:56                                     ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15  6:59                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-15  2:53                                   ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15  8:41                                     ` Caches, page coloring, virtual indexed caches, and more Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-15 11:54                                       ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15 12:53                                         ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-15 17:41                                           ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-17  4:36                                             ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-16  9:34                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-17  4:43                                             ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-17  8:35                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-15 17:16                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-16  4:58                                           ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15 18:22                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-15 12:51                                       ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-17 14:28                           ` Subtle MM bug Rik van Riel
2001-01-18  1:23                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 11:48                               ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-10 17:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-11 14:36                       ` Jim Gettys
2001-01-08 21:30   ` Wayne Whitney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-10 19:57 Chris Wing
2001-01-08 20:39 Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-01-08 21:56 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 23:22   ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 23:30     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09  0:37       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 22:00 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 22:15   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-07 20:59 Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-07 21:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-07 22:33   ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09  2:01   ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17  4:48     ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17 18:53       ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-18  1:32         ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-17 19:37           ` H. Peter Anvin

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