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From: Mitchell Blank Jr <mitch@sfgoth.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: O_ANY  [was: Re: 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()]]
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 05:00:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010116050003.J5386@sfgoth.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010116123743.A32075@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101161242180.529-100000@elte.hu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101161242180.529-100000@elte.hu>; from mingo@elte.hu on Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:04:22PM +0100

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> - probably the most radical solution is what i suggested, to completely
> avoid the unique-mapping of file structures to an integer range, and use
> the address of the file structure (and some cookies) as an identification.

IMO... gross.  We do pretty much this exact thing in the ATM code (for
the signalling daemon and the kernel exchainging status on VCCs) and it's
pretty disgusting.  I want to make it go away.

> - a less radical solution would be to still map file structures to an
> integer range (file descriptors) and usage-maintain files per processes,
> but relax the 'allocate first non-allocated integer in the range' rule.
[...]
> 	fd = open(...,O_ANY);

Yeah, this gets talked about, but I don't think a new flag for open is a
good way to do this, because open() isn't the only thing that returns
a new fd.  What about socket()?  pipe()?

Maybe we could have a new prctl() control that turns this behavior
on and off.  Then you'd just have to be careful to turn it back off
before calling any library functions that require ordering (like popen).

Other than that, I think it'd be a good idea, especially if it could
be implemented clean enough to make it CONFIG_'urable.  That can't
really be fairly judged until someone produces the code.

-Mitch
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-16 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-14 18:29 Is sendfile all that sexy? jamal
2001-01-14 18:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 19:02   ` jamal
2001-01-14 19:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 19:18       ` jamal
2001-01-14 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 20:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 21:44     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 21:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 21:54     ` Gerhard Mack
2001-01-14 22:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 22:45         ` J Sloan
2001-01-15 20:15           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15  3:43         ` Michael Peddemors
2001-01-15 13:02       ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-15 13:45         ` Tristan Greaves
2001-01-15  1:14   ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-15 15:24   ` Jonathan Thackray
2001-01-15 15:36     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-15 20:17       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 16:05     ` dean gaudet
2001-01-15 18:34       ` Jonathan Thackray
2001-01-15 18:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 20:47           ` [patch] sendpath() support, 2.4.0-test3/-ac9 Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16  4:51             ` dean gaudet
2001-01-16  4:59               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-16  9:48                 ` 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()] Ingo Molnar
2000-01-01  2:02                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-16 11:13                   ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 11:26                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 11:37                       ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 12:04                         ` O_ANY [was: Re: 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()]] Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:09                           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:13                           ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 12:33                             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 14:40                               ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 12:34                           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 13:00                           ` Mitchell Blank Jr [this message]
2001-01-16 13:57                   ` 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()] Jamie Lokier
2001-01-16 14:27                   ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 17:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17  4:39                   ` dean gaudet
2001-01-16  9:19               ` [patch] sendpath() support, 2.4.0-test3/-ac9 Ingo Molnar
2001-01-17  0:03                 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-15 18:58         ` Is sendfile all that sexy? dean gaudet
2001-01-15 19:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-15 20:33       ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-15 21:00         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-16 10:40         ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 11:56           ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 12:37           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:42           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:47             ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 13:48               ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-16 14:20                 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 15:05                   ` David L. Parsley
2001-01-16 15:05                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2001-01-16 15:46                       ` David L. Parsley
2001-01-18 14:00                         ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-01-17 19:27                     ` dean gaudet
2001-01-24  0:58   ` Sasi Peter
2001-01-24  8:44     ` James Sutherland
2001-01-25 10:20     ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-25 10:58       ` Sasi Peter
2001-01-26  6:10         ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-26 11:46           ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:12             ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-15 23:16 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-16 13:47   ` jamal
2001-01-16 14:41     ` Pavel Machek

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