From: Felix von Leitner <leitner@convergence.de>
To: Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()]
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:27:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010116152756.B32180@convergence.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101152056170.12667-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101161020200.673-100000@elte.hu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101161020200.673-100000@elte.hu>; from mingo@elte.hu on Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:48:34AM +0100
Thus spake Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu):
> But even user-space code could use 'native files', via the following, safe
> mechanizm:
[something reminiscient of a token from a capability system]
> (this 'fingerprint' mechanizm can be used for any object, not only files.)
One good thing about tokens is that file handles can be implemented on
top of them in user space.
On the other hand, there already are mechanisms to pass file descriptors
around and so on, so you don't gain anything tangible from your efford.
I would advise reading some text books about capability systems, there
is a lot to be learned here. But retrofitting something like this on an
existing kernel is probably not a very good idea. Experience shows that
you can't "un-bloat" a piece of software by introducing a few elegant
concepts. The compatibility stuff eats most of the benefits.
Felix
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-14 18:29 Is sendfile all that sexy? jamal
2001-01-14 18:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 19:02 ` jamal
2001-01-14 19:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 19:18 ` jamal
2001-01-14 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 20:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 21:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 21:54 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-01-14 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 22:45 ` J Sloan
2001-01-15 20:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 3:43 ` Michael Peddemors
2001-01-15 13:02 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-15 13:45 ` Tristan Greaves
2001-01-15 1:14 ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-15 15:24 ` Jonathan Thackray
2001-01-15 15:36 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-15 20:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 16:05 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-15 18:34 ` Jonathan Thackray
2001-01-15 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 20:47 ` [patch] sendpath() support, 2.4.0-test3/-ac9 Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 4:51 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-16 4:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-16 9:48 ` 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()] Ingo Molnar
2000-01-01 2:02 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-16 11:13 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 11:37 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 12:04 ` O_ANY [was: Re: 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()]] Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:13 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 12:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 14:40 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 12:34 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 13:00 ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2001-01-16 13:57 ` 'native files', 'object fingerprints' [was: sendpath()] Jamie Lokier
2001-01-16 14:27 ` Felix von Leitner [this message]
2001-01-16 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 4:39 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-16 9:19 ` [patch] sendpath() support, 2.4.0-test3/-ac9 Ingo Molnar
2001-01-17 0:03 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-15 18:58 ` Is sendfile all that sexy? dean gaudet
2001-01-15 19:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-15 20:33 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-15 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-16 10:40 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 11:56 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:47 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 13:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-16 14:20 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 15:05 ` David L. Parsley
2001-01-16 15:05 ` Jakub Jelinek
2001-01-16 15:46 ` David L. Parsley
2001-01-18 14:00 ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-01-17 19:27 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-24 0:58 ` Sasi Peter
2001-01-24 8:44 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-25 10:20 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-25 10:58 ` Sasi Peter
2001-01-26 6:10 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-26 11:46 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:12 ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-15 23:16 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-16 13:47 ` jamal
2001-01-16 14:41 ` Pavel Machek
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